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View from the Wing reports on excellent Vietnam Airlines award availability flagged by Instagram account @findflightsforme. I actually stumbled on a bunch of this a couple of months ago when plotting out a return from Asia, but at the time I passed on it because there unfortunately isn’t a “cheap” way to book it. That said, if you’re flush with Flying Blue miles or Virgin points or transferable points, this can no doubt be a great way to get as many as 4 passengers between San Francisco and Asia that’s pretty widely available this fall and next spring.
As View from the Wing notes, Vietnam Airlines operates this route with an A350 that looks pretty comfortable, but they only operate the route 4 times a week. That might make this screen shot look like it isn’t quite “wide open” availability, but given that they only fly the route 4 times a week you’ll see that almost every flight they operate is available in February.
At 140K points and $238 for a one-way business class flight to Asia, it’s certainly not a smoking deal, but up to 4 seats are available on many dates.
If you don’t already have Virgin points, you’d be better off transferring any of your transferrable currencies to Air France / KLM Flying Blue to book the same flight for 100,500 miles and about $242.
Gary points out that you could alternatively book via Korean Air SkyPass for only 77,500 miles (and about $250) each way, though I suspect that few readers have access to SkyPass miles since they ceased being a transferable currency partner (for US credit card programs) years ago (and the U.S. Bank SkyPass Visa cards aren’t particularly popular).
Obviously this availability could be helpful if you’re looking to go to Vietnam, but it could also be a good way to position to Asia as you can get from Vietnam to plenty of places in Southeast Asia quite cheaply.
Just keep in mind that Americans need a Visa to visit Vietnam. It isn’t particularly difficult (or expensive) to get, but you want to think about that before you are packing up your bags in Saipan to head to the airport and fly to Vietnam. As you might bet, I speak from experience on that — I had to call United and plead my case on making a change on a complicated multi-stop award while travel was in progress because I hadn’t thought to Google “Do Americans need a Visa for Vietnam?” until we were literally packing up to go to the airport for our flight. We had to change plans on that trip. A couple of years later, we did make it to Vietnam, but I mention this hoping to save someone else from having to make a last-minute trip save.
As noted at the top, I saw this space as I was searching for ways to get home from Japan with a family of four at the tail end of our summer trip (I was willing to position to Vietnam if necessary, though the aforementioned required Visa made it unideal). In the end, I found that Hawaiian Airlines had some excellent paid fares from Japan to the US in business class, so I ended up booking that with around 95K Membership Rewards points per passenger after the Business Platinum pay-with-points rebate. However, if you don’t find something like that, this could certainly be useful.
On the ANA non-alliance partnership with Vietnam Air, you can also go to other parts of Asia for the same 136,000 roundtrip. For example, you can book RT to Singapore (through Ho Chi Minh) for the same 136,000 miles.
Hi, do you have any tips on finding the non-alliance partnership award space? I can find ANA operated flights to VN but taxes is crazy! I can never find the round trip dates that have non-alliance partnership award space, even though I can see VN airline flights on Flying Blue, but not on ANA. Please share how you could find these flights. Thank you so much!
“though I suspect that few readers have access to SkyPass miles since they ceased being a transferable currency partner (for US credit card programs) years ago (and the U.S. Bank SkyPass Visa cards aren’t particularly popular).”
Not quite. While Chase UR was many years ago, Marriott was only recently (last month).
Someone commented that the cheapest way to book is Aeromexico, around 70k w Amex 20% bonus. But you need to call. Any thoughts on using Aeromexico?
Sorry, no xfer bonus but 1:1.6 regular xfer ratio would cost 70k, which I assume means they would charge around 110k points (meaning it would only make sense w Amex MR points).
Hi Jeff, I called aeromexico, but they said at the moment they can only book aeromexico award flight, do u have any successful experience? thank you so much
I’ve never used them, which is why I was wondering how easy they are.
You can book VN business roundtrip with ANA 136k miles + $45 taxes. ANA has non-alliance partnership with VN airline.
Hi Lam, do you have any tips on finding the non-alliance partnership award space? I can find ANA operated flights to VN but taxes is crazy! I can never find the round trip dates that have non-alliance partnership award space, even though I can see VN airline flights on Flying Blue, but not on ANA. Please share how you could find these flights. Thank you so much!
If you found sfo-sgn and sgn-sfo VNA biz class available on AF website (use the trick to pull up AF calendar), put those 2 dates to search on ANA website, it should work to show 136k miles
I tried that but I couldn’t find anything. I saw both flights on AF but not on ANA so I was so confused! I’m not sure if I’m doing anything wrong or the dates I picked were just bad 🙁
If you see it on the AF website, I think you need to call ANA and book over the phone. I don’t think ANA shows VN flights on their site (but I could be wrong on that).
Ohhh thank you so much for letting me know! That makes a lot more sense now. I could see both flights sfo-sgn and sgn-sfo on AF but I couldn’t see them on ANA. I was so confused, not sure if I did it correctly. But if I need to call it makes sense now, similar to book ANA metal via Virgin Atlantic I guess.
Of course. Hold times for ANA can be long–which is why this route is an underused sweet spot.