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Last week, Amex increased their public offers for the Delta Gold and Delta Platinum credit cards (through November 9 2016):
- (Expired) Delta Gold Personal 50,000 miles + $50: Earn 50,000 miles after $2K spend in 3 months + $50 statement credit after any Delta purchase in 1st 3 months. $95 annual fee waived first year. NOTE: You may find a better offer (with a $100 credit) by going through the steps of booking a flight on Delta.com.
- (Expired) Delta Gold Business 50,000 miles + $50: Earn 50,000 miles after $2K spend in 3 months + $50 statement credit after any Delta purchase in 1st 3 months. $95 annual fee waived first year.
- (Expired) Delta Platinum Personal 70,000 miles + 10K MQMs + $100: Earn 70,000 miles and 10K MQMs after $3K spend in 3 months + $100 statement credit after any Delta purchase in 1st 3 months. $195 annual fee not waived first year.
- (Expired) Delta Platinum Business 70,000 miles + 10K MQMs + $100: Earn 70,000 miles and 10K MQMs after $5K spend in 3 months + $100 statement credit after any Delta purchase in 1st 3 months. $195 annual fee not waived first year.
Are these the best offers ever?
Yes and No.
Yes: The 70,000 mile offers for the Delta Platinum cards are the best public offers I can remember ever seeing for these cards.
No: 50K Gold card offers are common. Plus, these 50K offers were surpassed as recently as last year with a 60K offer that was sort of targeted but readily available to most people. Those who live in target markets (such as Seattle and New York) frequently receive better targeted offers as well.
I already have (or have had in the past) a Delta card, can I still get this bonus?
Maybe. Most Amex offers (including the current Delta card offers) state the following: “Welcome bonus offer not available to applicants who have or have had this product.” This means that you can’t get the bonus again for the same exact card you’ve had before, but you can get the bonus for a different type of Delta card, or for a different business.
Suppose you have or have had in the past a single Delta card. Then:
Current or Previous Cardmember | You can get bonus for: |
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Delta Gold Personal |
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Delta Gold Business |
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Delta Platinum Personal |
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Delta Platinum Business |
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I’m not planning to purchase Delta flights anytime soon. Can I still earn the statement credits?
Yes. Any Delta spend will trigger the statement credits. You don’t even have to spend much. For example, when I last signed up for a Delta card, I used the card to pay the $5.60 TSA fee on an award ticket and that alone was enough to trigger the $100 statement credit!
Worst case, you can trigger the statement credit by buying a $50 gift card direct from Delta (found here).
What is the difference between the Personal and Business cards?
Other than the fact that the Platinum Business card offer has a higher spend requirement, there is very little difference between the Platinum Personal and Platinum Business card or the Gold Personal and Gold Business card. The benefits are the same. The annual fees are the same.
The primary difference to consider is that Amex business card accounts do not get reported to the personal credit bureaus. So, high balances on the business cards will not hurt your credit score, and Chase will not count the business cards towards your 5/24 status (in other words, signing up for Amex business cards will not hurt your chance of getting new Chase cards in the future). In other words, there are a few distinct advantages to the business cards.
Of course, you do need to have a business in order to apply for business cards. That said, its not uncommon for people to have businesses without realizing it. If you regularly sell items on eBay, for example, then you have a business. Similar examples include: consulting, writing (e.g. blog authorship!), handyman services, owning rental property, etc. In any of these cases, your business is considered a Sole Proprietorship unless you form a corporation of some sort. To keep things simple you can even use your own SSN as the business Tax ID and your own name as the business name.
What is the difference between the Gold and Platinum cards?
Both cards offer standard airline card perks like first checked bag free, priority boarding, and in-flight discounts. However there are three major differences between the Gold and Platinum cards (not counting differences in the signup bonuses):
- Annual Fees: Amex charges $95 per year for the Gold card and $195 per year for the Platinum card. The Gold card’s first year annual fee is waived. The Platinum card’s first year annual fee is not waived. This translates to a $195 difference this year, and then a $100 difference in future years (if you keep the card past the first year)
- Medallion Qualifying Miles (MQMs) & Bonus Miles for high spend: The Platinum cards offer perks for high spend. At $25,000 per calendar year spend and again at $50,000 in spend, the Platinum cards give the cardholder 10,000 MQMs (towards elite status) and 10,000 bonus miles.
- Companion Certificate: When you renew your card membership at the end of the first year, and each year thereafter, Platinum cardholders get a companion certificate. With some fare restrictions, this certificate lets you book a round trip domestic flight and add a companion sort of for free. By “sort of” I mean that you do have to pay some taxes and fees for your companion. Note that tickets bought this way are not upgrade-able to Comfort Plus or First Class, and the companion does not earn miles for the flight.
Are the differences between the Gold and Platinum cards worth the extra fees?
If any one of these are true, then the answer is yes:
- You are likely to fly Delta domestic economy with a companion on a paid fare at least once per year, and you don’t mind that the seats are not upgradeable. The companion certificate alone (available starting at the beginning of your second year of Delta Platinum card membership) can be worth far more than the difference in annual fees.
- You are likely to spend $25,000 or more per year on the Delta card. If so, the 10,000 bonus miles alone are worth the difference in annual fees.
- You have the ability to spend $25,000 or more per year on the card, and you value Delta elite status, and would like to use the card to attain status or reach a higher tier of status.
If you’re not planning on keeping either card long term, then the annual fee difference hardly matters. The extra 20,000 miles for the Platinum card make up for the extra $195 first year fee.
I’m not planning on keeping the card long term, so which offer is better?
On the surface, the offers appear to be pretty similar. You can get 50,000 miles for free with the Delta card or 70,000 miles for $195 with the Platinum card. Since those extra 20,000 miles are worth at least $200 towards Delta flights, it appears to be a wash. There are some significant differences though:
Advantages of the Delta Gold offers:
- The Delta Gold offers require less spend: $2,000 vs. $3,000 or $5,000 with the Delta Platinum offers.
- The Delta Gold offers waive the first year fee, so there is no out of pocket commitment
Advantages of the Delta Platinum offers:
- The Delta Platinum offers are special. I can’t remember ever seeing a public offer this high in the past for these cards and I don’t know if we’ll ever see it go this high again. Meanwhile, the Delta Gold offers are not special. 50K offers for the Delta Gold cards are common.
- The Platinum offers include 10,000 MQMs (Medallion Qualifying Miles). This is great for those who chase Delta elite status. If you don’t know what MQMs are, then you probably don’t need them and won’t get any value from them.
- The Delta Platinum Business card offer has a higher statement credit than the Delta Gold Business card offer ($100 vs. $50).
In sum, I think that the Platinum offers are slightly better for anyone willing to invest the $195 fee, and much better for those seeking Delta elite status.
Are Delta miles valuable?
Yes, absolutely. Delta award space has improved tremendously in the past year or two. Compared to other mainstream US mileage programs such as American and United, I find that Delta offers more predictable value. With AA or United it is possible to get incredible value from certain business and first class international awards. But, getting good value from those programs for domestic economy flights is less common. With Delta, I recently found that it was hard not to get at least 1.4 cents per mile value for domestic economy, and closer to 2 cents per mile was not at all uncommon (see: Delta SkyMiles sheds SkyPeso moniker). In my experience, it has been possible to get excellent value from international business class flights as well.
Worst case, Delta cardholders can use their miles to pay for airfare at a rate of 1 cent per mile. That’s not amazing value, but it means that the current signup offers are worth at least $500 in Delta airfare, after first year annual fees are considered, but not counting the available statement credits.
Is Delta elite status valuable?
Some of the perks of elite status (free checked bags, priority boarding, etc.) overlap with Delta credit card perks. In those cases, elite status is not valuable. Delta offers four primary tiers of elite status: Silver (requires 25K MQMs per year), Gold (50K MQMs), Platinum (75K MQMs), and Diamond (125K MQMs). Delta also has a spend requirement for each tier (MQDs) which is waived if you spend $25,000 or more per year on Delta credit cards.
The value of elite status increases substantially as you go up in status. Silver status is better than a hole in the head, but you’re unlikely to score many first class seat upgrades. Gold is a bit better in that respect, but if you fly out of a Delta hub on business traveler routes you can forget about it. Here are a few reasons that Platinum status is great: 1) free upgrades become more likely; 2) free award changes and cancellations; and 3) Four upgrade certificates per year (as a “Choice Benefit”) can be used to greatly increase your chance of upgrades on regional flights when it is most important to you. And, Diamond status adds every more: 1) global upgrade certificates which can be used to upgrade international flights; 2) free CLEAR membership to bypass the lines at TSA security ID checks; 3) Even better chance of free regional upgrades; and more..
Personally, I’ve found Platinum and Diamond status to be hugely valuable. However, I do live near a Delta hub (Detroit Airport) so I do fly Delta often and therefore have many chances to benefit from status.
I’m sold on the Platinum card, but I want to get the MQMs next year. Is that possible?
First a little background. Delta MQMs help get you to elite status. If the 10K MQMs from the Platinum card signup bonus are not enough to get you to Silver status at least, then they’re completely wasted. In other words, if you end the calendar year with 24,999 or fewer MQMs, then they all go away. Poof.
If you end the year with more than 25,000 MQMs, though, the extra MQMs above the level of status you achieved roll over into the next calendar year. For example, if you achieved Silver status and you end the year with 30,000 MQMs, then 5,000 MQMs will roll over into the next year.
If you’re not going to make it to Silver status this year, even with an infusion of 10,000 more MQMs, then you’re better off getting those MQMs next year. Similarly, if you are near the next elite level, but would rather roll over MQMs than reach that next level now, you may want to wait on those 10K MQMs. For example, a person who has earned 115,000 MQMs in 2016 may prefer to roll over 40,000 MQMs to next year and get those extra 10K MQMs next year, rather than earn the extra MQMs now to get to Diamond status. Why? If they earn the extra MQMs now, they’ll have the benefit of earning Diamond status, but they won’t roll over any MQMs to next year.
If you want to get your MQMs next year, then the following should work:
- Wait until early November to sign up (the 70K offer is good through November 9th).
- Wait until January to complete the spend requirement.
Note that I wrote that this “should” work. If any readers have experience that will prove or disprove this idea, please comment below. I’ll update this post accordingly.
Bottom Line
All four Delta offers are very good, but only the Platinum offers are really special. If you read the above post and decide that you prefer the Gold card, that’s reasonable, but keep in mind that there is probably no rush. Chances are good that you’ll see the same 50,000 mile offer in the future. If you like the Platinum offer, though, I’d recommend jumping on it before the offer expires on November 9th. If you have a business, there are advantages to the business cards over the personal cards. Or, you can double the bonus by signing up for both a personal and a business card.
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Would the MQMs earned from these signup bonuses count towards a Delta status challenge? I don’t see any wording clarifying this issue.
Some people have reported that they do count, but I wouldn’t guarantee it.
Also, do we know how quickly the MQMs credit? Like if I want them to hit my account in January, should I complete the spending in December? or even November?
I think they post pretty quickly. I wouldn’t complete spend until January if you want it to count for 2017.
To monetize the $100 Delta credit for the Platinum Card in the 3 month period, will Delta let me purchase a $100 gift card on their website? If so, is there a time limit which I have to use the $100? Thanks!
Yes, but you can do even better. Buy a $50 Delta gift card directly from Delta and you’ll still get back $100 because ANY Delta purchase triggers the $100 credit.
I don’t think that the gift cards expire, but check the terms when you buy them.
is buying VGC ok to hit intro bonus? would amex claw back miles like MR? Thanks
The terms say no, but usually it is fine. At this point we really don’t know what Amex will do going forward. It’s safer to avoid gift cards when meeting min spend with Amex until we learn more.
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Since you live near dtw as I do a question for you.
What cards are in your pocket and what do you do to earn your platinum status on delta? Do you fly a ton or are you ms’ing 50k per year on delta cards to get bonus mqms
I MS the heck out of my and my wife’s personal and business Delta cards. I’ve managed to get both of us to Diamond status that way. It requires upgrading Platinum cards to Reserve and downgrading Reserve cards to Platinum to fully push the boundaries of what’s possible.
Greg do you do the upgrade and downgrade every year? Would you mind doing a post on your cycle? Thanks
Yes, every year. I promised the person who told me this technique that I wouldn’t write posts about it.
“This means that you can’t get the bonus again for the same exact card you’ve had before, but you can get the bonus for a different type of Delta card, or for a different business.”
Have you done this and received the bonus again for a different business? All the data points I’ve seen seem to indicate that unless you receive a targeted offer without the restrictive language, even a different business won’t get the bonus again if the SSN is the same. Please let me know if I’m wrong – I would love to be wrong on this one. Thanks!
I received a bonus on a Platinum business card over the summer when they had the 60K offer + 10K MQMs. I had already had a business Platinum card, so I signed up with a different business. The original business used my SSN as the Tax ID and the new one used an EIN. The businesses also have different names.
Greg,
Yours is certainly a useful data point, but I’m not certain that it was using a different business that caused the bonuses to post when they otherwise would not have.
There are plenty of odd cases where Amex has award bonuses unexpectedly, perhaps yours was one of these. I too would like to be wrong, and get confirmation that his is standard Amex policy…
That’s a good point. I have heard from a number of readers and a couple family members who have been successful doing this with various Amex business cards. On the other hand I did receive an email just the other day from someone who failed to get the bonus on a second SPG business card, so YMMV
Thanks Greg,
One extra question: how long between the last time you had the Platinum and this summer, when you received a new bonus? TIA.
I upgraded my old Platinum to Reserve on 6/13 and applied for the new Platinum on 6/21
In your view are three Discover points worth more or less than 1.5 Amex points?
Thanks,
Martha
Since Discover It Miles points are really just cash back (at a penny per point), another way of asking the question is whether I think Amex Membership Rewards points are worth more or less than 1.5 cents per point. There’s no question that they can get you much more than 1.5 cents per point value, but it really depends on how you would use them. If you would use them by transferring to an airline program and then using miles to book premium cabin international travel, then Amex points are worth more. If you would use them to book domestic flights or to pay with points for anything, then they’re usually worth less
@lantean, American Express has had that attitude towards matching offers for years unfortunately.
@Greg is there anyway to credit the MQM from these offers to someone else’s account? I believe the Reserve allows this but not sure on the Platinum.
i know but usually they throw in some courtesy miles or something…
I’ve asked multiple times but never had any luck. It’s great if it’s happened for you in the past 🙂
Short of applying with someone elses SkyMiles account… no you can’t credit the MQMs to someone else. With the Reserve card, you can credit the MQMs earned from big spend, but not the MQMs earned from a signup bonus or upgrade offer.
I received the plat personal card in June with 60k sign up… I called Amex today to ask to be matched to 70k for this offer… they said no. not even any courtesy miles or anything.
just “tuff luck, bye-bye”
that’s the new Amex customer “service”…
I am thinking about applying for the Delta Plat biz credit card but I currently have 5 credit cards with Amex–2 biz and 3 personal. I’ve read that you can only have 4 or 5 credit cards with them. None of my five are charge cards, I checked. Should I cancel 1 or more of them before applying or can I wait until after I apply and tell them I want to replace one of my other cards. I really wasn’t planning on cancelling any of them as I only have annual fees on 2 of them– the SPG biz and my Delta Gold personal credit card. I also like having them for the Amex offers that I have been able to take advantage of. Thanks.
You can apply and, if not approved, then call them and offer to close however many are required to get the card approved. Be ready with 2 cards in mind that are OK to close.
I just upgraded from the AMEX skymies Gold to the Platinum because of the 10K MQM offer..I was happy that I received the card and I started spending money on the card to reach the $3K point…We here comes the BAD NEWS…AMEX told me that they did not honor the offer if I was upgrading…I have never held a Platinum cards before and I quoted that to them and they stated that they would investigate the matter in which they did and responded to me “the offer does not apply to anyone that upgrades. Do you have any suggestion for me to use in obtaining the 10K MQM. thanks
Unfortunately that is standard practice. You won’t get a bonus for upgrading unless you respond to an upgrade offer. A new signup bonus offer won’t work. That said, Amex is known to offer MQM bonuses for upgrading from Gold to Platinum so it might help if you call them and ask them if they can retroactively issue an upgrade offer for you. You’ll almost certainly have to talk to a supervisor to get this done and I’m not at all sure that even that would work but it’s worth a try.
For 2nd business card, how does Amex know it’s a different business?
Different name and different Tax ID. Create an EIN if you don’t have one.
If applying for both bus and personal platinums, what’s your recommended strategy? Both apps on same day? Bus app first, then wait x days for personal? Personal app first? Since personal and business, probably don’t get combined into one inquiry?
They would get combined if they were both approved, but in my experience Amex won’t approve two credit cards on the same day anymore (you can do multiple charge cards though). Wait at least 5 days between applications.