Background: Million Mile Madness was the mad quest to earn a million points in one month. Throughout March, I did everything I could to earn as many points as possible while keeping within my ethical boundaries. During the month, I tracked all of the points that I expected, and I declared victory when the expected total topped one million.
Final tally… not yet
Yes, I succeeded in earning a million points in one month, but there was another aspect to the challenge: my goal was to keep my net costs below $1000. That meant that when I bought items to earn points and sold the items to earn back my money, there was very little room for error. At this point, I still have some items that remain unsold, so I can’t yet give a final tally. Did I succeed in keeping net costs below $1000? I don’t yet know. From my latest projections it looks like it will be close one way or another.
Million Mile Headaches
I’ve written before about some of the challenges I had during Million Mile Madness: A setback from Sears and Bumps in the road. Some issues, though, popped up late in the game and I haven’t previously had a chance to report on them. Sometimes bad results can be just as instructive as good ones. Here’s my SunTrust story…
SunTrust Plan
SunTrust offers a debit card that earns one mile per dollar spent on all credit or debit transactions. This is pretty amazing since very few cards offer rewards for debit transactions and those that do tend to offer much smaller rewards.
I signed up for the SunTrust card on March 7th with modest goals for Million Mile Madness. I wanted to earn the 5K sign-up bonus, and I intended to make about $10K in debit purchases for a total of 15K Delta SkyMiles. This would have made a small, but positive contribution towards my Million Mile Madness quest. My real reason for wanting the card, though, was for tax payments beginning in April. Pay1040.com charges a flat fee of only $2.99 for tax payments made by debit card, so this would have been a great (and very easy) way to earn miles while paying taxes.
Signup Process, March 7
To sign up for the debit card, I visited suntrust.com, clicked “Open an Account,” and then clicked “Chat Now” to bring up an instant messenger style chat window. I told the rep what I wanted, and he setup the new account for me. He told me that they needed $100 to start the account and that I could pay by debit card. I tried using a Visa gift card for that purpose (before gift cards had PINs), but I got a call a few days later saying that it didn’t work. So, I used my Mio debit card instead.
First Contact, March 20
After the sign-up process, I waited eagerly for my new card to arrive. The first sign that anything was happening was an email on March 20th saying that my online banking enrollment had been activated. The email included instructions for competing the activation, which I did. I didn’t yet have the debit card, though.
Funds Transfer Initiated, March 24
A few days later, on March 24th, I received an email stating that I could transfer funds from external accounts. I logged on to my SunTrust account and initiated a transfer of $7000 from my CapitalOne360 account (formerly ING Direct).
Card Received, March 25
On Monday, March 25th, I finally received my SunTrust Delta Debit card. It was the last week of my challenge, so I was glad that it finally arrived! I was also glad that I had proactively transferred in some funds so that I could use the card soon.
Transfer Stopped, March 26
On March 26th I received an email from CapitalOne360 informing me that SunTrust had initiated a $7K withdrawal. The same day I received the following email from SunTrust:
For security reasons, your funds transfer request from ING Direct, Savings account to SunTrustBank, Checking account has been stopped.
As a policy, we need to review the transaction. Based on the results of that review, we will either cancel the transaction, or the funds may take a little longer to reach the destination account. We will notify you of the status of the transaction by email.
I thought that was odd, but I figured that they would finish up their investigation quickly and credit my account as expected.
Account terminated, March 27
The next day I tried to log into my account to see if the transferred funds had been deposited. I only had a few more days remaining in my challenge so I really needed to start using the debit card! Unfortunately, the system told me that I had entered an incorrect ID or password. I reset my password and tried again but received the same error.
I called SunTrust. At first, the rep I spoke with tried to help me with my password, but eventually he noticed a note on my account: SunTrust was closing my account and terminating all business with me. No reason was given. I asked why this happened, but the rep was unable to give me an explanation.
Crap. I had to find other ways to earn 15,000 miles before the end of the month. Luckily both Amex and Chase came through for me with big retention bonuses (see “Million Mile Madness: Easy points“). Whew.
“Show me the money”, March 29
On Friday, March 29th, I logged into my CapitalOne360 account and noticed that the $7K I had transferred was still gone. Crap. I called SunTrust. They claimed that there was no record of a transfer into my SunTrust account. “But, I initiated the transfer from suntrust.com” I exclaimed. Sorry, they said, but most likely the money will be automatically re-credited to my Capital One account in about 5 business days. I had no choice but to wait.
No, really, “show me the money!” April 8
On the first week of April I went on vacation and tried to forget about SunTrust (UnTrust?). On Monday, April 8th, SunTrust reminded me of my dilemma by sending a box of checks. Huh? I distinctly remembered telling them that I didn’t want checks when I signed up. And, if they terminated my account, why send checks anyway? Had they re-established my account? Maybe they realized that the account closure was a mistake and reinstated it? I tried again to log on, but with no success. I checked my Capital One account and saw that the $7K was still missing.
I called SunTrust and told the rep my dilemma. The account was still closed. Supposedly I had ordered checks in the middle of the month and so my account that previously had a $100 balance was about $14 poorer (I don’t actually remember the exact amount). They still couldn’t explain why my account was closed or where my $7K had gone. They couldn’t even re-credit my account for the checks I hadn’t ordered because my account was frozen. They said that I could get my balance returned to me after my account had been frozen for 30 days and finally terminated completely. It was still unclear if I would get back the money for the checks, but the bigger issue was my $7000 dollars!
I called Capital One and they offered to open an investigation. I filled out and faxed a form describing the issue.
Capital One comes through! April 9
To this day, I still have not heard about the results of the investigation, but on April 9th I logged into my CapitalOne360 account and found a wonderful sight:
- 04/09/2013 Withdrawal Reversal 7000.00
Great!
What happened?
I still do not have the $100 used to fund the SunTrust account, nor do I have an explanation of why my account was terminated. My best guess is that they figured out that I don’t live in one of the States that they serve. Of course, they knew that when I applied for the account in the first place!
On May 1st, I received a letter from SunTrust’s Enterprise Fraud Management department. The letter read as follows (bolding is mine):
SunTrust continually reviews its products, markets and client relationships to ensure that we are able to provide the best possible client service while also meeting our corporate business objectives. There are circumstances where the company will identify a specific account relationship that no longer meets these criteria. In the interest of our clients and SunTrust, the company will request those accounts be closed.
When you opened your account with SunTrust, you received a copy of our Rules and Regulations for Deposit Accounts, our contractual agreement with our depositors. The Rules and Regulations stipulate that SunTrust may close an account for any reason without advance notice to the client.
In accord with these Rules and Regulations, and as a result of information we have received after the account was opened or the unsatisfactory handling of the account, we find it necessary to discontinue our banking relationship immediately. If the account is overdrawn, the overdrawn amount is a debt owed to SunTrust, and we require payment of any such debt within 30 days of the closing of the account. If the payment of the overdraft is not obtained within that time action will be taken to collect the debt. You will be responsible for all items, along with any associated fees, that are presented against the account after closure. If there is a positive balance at the time of closure, SunTrust Bank will make a determination on the disposition of the funds.
We regret that we will not be in a position to continue to provide you with banking services, however this decision is irrevocable.
In other words, “We can do what we want… na, na, nuh, na, na.”
Learn about Million Mile Madness:
- A crazy million mile idea. Should I do it?
- Million Mile Madness, it’s on
- Million Mile Madness: Strategy
- Million Mile Madness: Preparing to buy & sell
- Million Mile Madness: Tracking points and expenses
- Million Mile Madness: The big churn story
- Million Mile Madness: buying, selling Kohl’s
- Million Mile Madness: Banking on Lowe’s
- Million Mile Madness: A setback from Sears
- Million Mile Madness: Pending Success
- Million Mile Madness: Bumps in the road
- Million Mile Madness: Credit scores and pulls
- Million Mile Madness: Easy points
- Million Mile Madness: Success!!!!!
- Million Mile Madness: Which points?
- Million Mile Madness: How it was done
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[…] Suntrust Delta Debit Card: Offers 1 mile per dollar spent. $75 annual fee plus monthly fees unless you maintain a balance of $3K or more. Million Mile Secrets provides more information about this card here. You can also read about my frustrating experience with the card here. […]
[…] Miler, who doesn’t live in a Suntrust state, had his account closed after initiating a $7000 funds transfer. I’ve seen that large funds transfers initiated from a Suntrust account that’s just […]
I have been swindled out of thousands from Sun Trust bank. I intend to file with the Federal Reserve and I suggest all of you do the same as soon as possible.
Here is the link:http://www.federalreserveconsumerhelp.gov/?District=13
SunTrust pretty much states whatever they want even if it down right illegal because they depend on allot of us not knowing where to report such things. Now that you have the link do something about it. Stop letting banks like this continue to use its customers like cash cows.
From http://www.deltadebitcard.com/details.php:
Qualified Purchases: Only PIN Point of Sale and signature-based purchases (including small dollar purchases that do not require a signature), Internet purchases, phone or mail order purchases or automatic bill payments qualify for mileage earnings. Cash advances, cash portion of a PIN POS sale with cash back, ATM transactions, payments for stored-value cards, wire transfers, money transfers, money orders, cashier checks, quasi cash, traveler’s cheques, purchase of monetary instruments or a PIN POS/signature transaction that contains either in whole or part of one or more of the previously excluded transaction types do not qualify.
Based on the above, I think this could go either way. You could say that tax payments are an automatic bill payment (this is an option on pay1040.com), or you could say it’s a money transfer. Has anyone actually had success paying their taxes using this debit card?
Yes many people have reported success earning miles when paying taxes with the SunTrust card
[…] SunTrust Delta debit card: earns 1 mile per dollar. Best bet is to apply in person when near a SunTrust branch although many have been successful with applying on their web site via online chat. Regardless, I don’t recommend funding with a gift card as I tried to do. […]
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Wow what turds.
Suntrust is one of the worst banks I have seen myself. We dealt with them a number of years ago for a business acct. The branch we used became terrible. At one point they went through so many manager and there was not actually a manager at the location, it was covered by somebody overseeing a few branches. You are on their blacklist..LOL I love your blog BTW.
Suntrust finally gained some “trust”…
I received a check from SunTrust today. $86.35.
msp2anywhere / Tony: Interesting theory! I would test it, but I don’t really want to have anything to do with SunTrust anymore 🙂
@Greg The Frequent Miler in regards to my theory, if you look at the people who had problems opening their accounts in this thread they did so with a GC, then tried to transfer money into from a regular account. The ones who were successful open their accounts with a transfer from a regular checking account. There are times when GC aren’t the way to go.
@msp2anywhere that is what I said in my post…. Fund straight from a checking account, I never had any problems access my account at all… It’s been a great little points maker for me..
I think I may have some insight into FM’s difficulties, based on the opening process in our household last year.
We are not in the ST footprint, and opened the accounts online (not via chat). I funded mine with a direct transfer of $6k from a current checking account, set up online account access just fine. After receiving my debit card, I went online to check the account, but wasn’t able to access. I called the 800 number, and remember being put through some verification process with ‘security’. After that was done, online access opened up, and it’s been incredibly smooth sailing ever since.
Mrs. msp2anywhere: opened online, minutes after mine, but attempted funding with a GC. No dice. And, there’s no method in the process to convert to funding with a transfer if the first method doesn’t work. Week later the debit card and account paperwork show up, followed the next day by a letter saying ‘we do not want your business; no ifs, ands, or buts’.
Lessons learned: fund with a direct transfer from an existing bank account, and an amount that shows you have have some serious $$ to deposit; likely that’s what they are after.
Thankfully, no hard pull