St Regis New York. A great hotel, but I won’t return.


a room with a couch and chairs

My wife and I recently spent a three day weekend in New York at the St Regis.  This is the St Regis that started the brand, and it happened to be our first St Regis stay, anywhere.  Hopefully it won’t be our last.  But, despite the fact that they did almost everything right, we probably won’t return to this St Regis.  But let’s be clear about this break up: St Regis New York, it’s not you, it’s me.

Excellent check-in experience

The desk agent who checked us in did an amazing job of welcoming us with a smile and friendly banter that made us feel as if she was truly happy that we were staying there.  I had Titanium Elite status with Marriott, and so she explained the elite benefits.  Those with Platinum Elite status, or higher, could choose a welcome gift of either 1000 points or daily breakfast served in the restaurant or in our room.  We obviously chose breakfast.  We could also get 4pm late checkout, but we didn’t need it for this trip. She told us that we had been upgraded to a deluxe King room.

Excellent butler service

Butler service is available to all guests at the St Regis.  After check-in at the desk, we headed up the elevator to our room and our butler greeted us when we got out of the elevator.  She walked us to our room, explained the basics of the butler service and then brought us an afternoon tea service.  Here are the basic butler services available at no extra charge as I remember them: french press coffee or tea service each morning; daily fresh fruit brought to the room; up to two items of clothing pressed per day; shoe shines.  We took full advantage of all of those services during our stay.

Wonderful room

a bed in a room

a room with a couch and a desk

The desk agent who checked us in didn’t say that we had been upgraded to a suite, but our room sure seemed like a junior-suite, at least.  As you can see above, we had a full living area in addition to our bedroom, but without privacy doors in-between (we didn’t mind).  The bathroom was beautiful and spacious too.  And the cleaning staff clearly does a great job.  I travel with a Roku stick for streaming TV and movies.  I can’t remember a time that I didn’t find the back of the hotel TV covered with dust when I went to plug in the Roku.  In this case, the TV was immaculate all around.

Excellent extras

a banana and grapes on a plate

The butler keeps the room stocked daily with fresh fruit.  This is a standard service which is not dependent upon elite status.

a plate of chocolate covered strawberries

Chocolate covered strawberries were brought to our room after check in.  I believe this was an extra elite gift, but maybe they offer these to everyone, or maybe just to those celebrating an occasion?  I’m not sure.

a close up of a document

We were celebrating our wedding anniversary very, very early.  So, they gave us two free desserts at the hotel restaurant. Hey, when a place like this asks if you’re celebrating an occasion, “yes” is the right answer.

Classy Bentley chauffeur service

a car parked on the side of a street

The St Regis offers complementary chauffeured car service via a beautiful Bentley.  The driver will take you anywhere within a 10 block radius, but you can’t call for pickups to return.  We used this service frequently for our outbound rides to restaurants and theaters and then walked back to the hotel afterwards.  For the record, I don’t know what the proper tipping etiquette is, but I tipped the driver $5 per ride.

Delightful breakfast

a plate of food on a table

Each morning we rang the butler for our french press coffee and later went down to the Astor Court restaurant for breakfast.  We could have had the breakfast brought to our room, but we enjoyed the experience of dining in the restaurant.  At check-in we were told that our free breakfast was for the American Breakfast, but our waiter explained that we could get anything on the menu up to $93 total ($46.50 each).  He also confirmed that tip was included automatically so we didn’t have to do anything but sign the bill when it came.  Since we had already had our complementary coffee in our room each morning, we saved at least $9 per person from the total breakfast bill and had no problem staying within the $93 budget.  And the breakfast was delicious.  Be careful about ordering the $15 orange juice, though, as that can easily push you past the limit!  A photo of the breakfast menu is included at the bottom of this post.

It ain’t cheap

a screenshot of a website

We booked the stay with points.  Until March 5th 2019, Marriott charged 60,000 points per night for the St Regis New York.  If we could have stayed 5 nights, we would have gotten a better deal thanks to Marriott’s 5th Night Free award pricing.  As of March 5th, though, the price jumped to 85,000 points per night standard.  And sometime later in 2019, Marriott will introduce Peak and Off-Peak pricing which will mean that same hotel may be available at times for 70,000 points off-peak or 100,000 points peak.  For comparison, single night paid prices at this hotel tend to range from the low $700s to over $1,000 before taxes.

$50 per day destination fee

a white and black card with black text

The new 85K pricing is one reason we might not return, but it’s not the only reason.  The hotel charges a $50 per day destination fee.  That in itself is annoying, but not the whole issue.  They offer quite a lot for that $50, so It’s possible to get far more than $50 value.  And we did.  The destination fee offers the following benefits:

  • $50 Food & Beverage Credit
  • $50 Laundry or Dry Cleaning Credit
  • $25 Fodera Hair Salon Credit (hair services only)
  • Complimentary high speed internet; unlimited local, long distance, and international calls.
  • Two museum tickets to either MoMa or The Metropolitan Museum of Art

We used most of these services (including the museum tickets) on two out of the three days in which we paid the destination fee.  So, arguably, we got at least $100 in food and $100 in museum tickets and maybe $80 in dry cleaning for $150.  That sounds like a good deal, but I found that it actually made our stay more stressful and limited our dining and museum options.  Since our breakfast was fully covered due to my elite status, I found it stressful to figure out how to use the dining credits each day.  On our first day, we didn’t have a chance to use our food credits at all since we had dinner reservations that evening and were too tired for drinks that night.  And we found out that the credit resets at 1 am, so we couldn’t use it the next morning.  On the next two days we ended up eating a late lunch at the hotel a couple of times when we wouldn’t have done so otherwise.  And while we were happy to go to both MoMa and The Met, we’d like other options next time we’re in the city.

This destination fee and my mad need to maximize its value is the primary reason I’m not eager to return.  Ironically, if I didn’t have elite status guaranteeing free breakfast, I wouldn’t have this issue at all.  In that case, it would be simple to use up the $50 food credit each morning and the stress would be gone.

An elite tip (“tip” is a pun here)

If you have Marriott Platinum Elite status or higher, you will get $93 worth of breakfast each morning, for free.  When the check comes, you’ll see that there’s a section to write in a tip.  Be warned that anything you put in here is over and above the service tip that is automatically included but not shown on the check.


Overall, the St. Regis New York is a terrific hotel with prices to match.  The only thing I didn’t like was the destination fee.  In particular, the fee made me anxious to use the benefits that come with it.  As a result, it added unwelcome stress to our otherwise delightful stay.

a menu of a restaurant
St Regis New York breakfast menu (plus inadvertent shadow puppets)
a paper with a list of laundry
St Regis New York laundry / dry cleaning menu. Up to $50 per day is included in the hotel’s destination fee.
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We just returned from staying at this wonderful hotel. We stayed 4 nights (on points) and they waived the $50 daily fee (though we could still opt-in if we wanted the perks). I believe the minimum is 4 nights to be able to waive the fee.


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Most people don’t realize but Marriott’s terms and conditions require a property charging a resort or destination fee that includes internet access to provide an alternative amenity since the internet is supposed to be complimentary for those with elite status. Some properties give an actual alternative amenity, others just deduct $5-15 off the daily fee.

Regardless, I think this $50 fee is tacky and cheap. I mean, seriously, with $750 or $1000 nightly room rates they should be making plenty of profit.

huey judy

Ah yes, the “fee”. If it’s mandatory, it belongs in the room rate. If I’m entitled to all that stuff with my status, I don’t pay the fee. If there’s some benefit that I can use, such as F&B credit, then that’s fine. It takes a strong constitution to stand up to the front desk manager and convince him/her that I’m not going to pay the fee. But I feel that someone has to take a position on this baloney extra-fee business. Maybe I said this before … if it’s a mandatory fee, it belongs in the room rate. There’s no discussion here.


Going to stay here next week for one night, before a RTW trip. Greg any tips for Dinner? I normally stay in the lower Manhattan area at the Conrad.


great perspective, we need something candid like this article, not I stayed there (almost free) so I should not pick on small things. Greg probably made a killing from the blog but still has the mindset of a normal frugal guy


I believe you can get caviar with the room service breakfast.


The other blogger was apparently able to get more than $93 worth through room service. Unfortunately I can’t locate his post.


We’re staying five nights in June also Titanium. At first I was a bit put off by the destination fee but when you look at it it is pretty solid value. Get laundry done, night caps in the King Cole Bar, tix for the museums, all ought to easily be worth more than $250.


I am doing this same stay later this year also with the RC free nights + 1 extra. Thank you for the detail & what to prepare for to maximize value. I also appreciate the pictures of the offerings so I can make those decisions in advance. A “freebie” stay can get out of control fast at some hotels & resorts – thanks for the heads-up.

Seems the $50 could be enjoyed at the bar downstairs for a couple of drinks/day? Or apps?


Greg doesn’t drink and I bet that would buy a Draft Beer 12oz too.
Remember folks u have to write about some thing .


“Lady Astor’s Tea is the classic afternoon tea and it’s $65 per person. It comes with a selection of five savories, scones, and an assortment of sweets.” A non-alcoholic option for maybe one day?


As you know u have to learn how to work the system and hard to do in one stay .Booked air HNL 2/2020 .


I assure you in 4 days, CD, I will be working the $50/day for wayyyy more than its worth!


” Greed is Good ” more Greed is Better ..CD


Omg. The crowd is brutal. I agree with all the people here. If you count your pennies to such a degree are you really enjoying life or going through it pretending to be enjoying it.

That said your frankness is refreshing. Attacking people when they open up it’s a good way that they go back in their shell. So don’t mind these [edited] who need to attack you even though it’s not clear how it’s going to improve their pathetic life.


I don’t understand what’s the deal with these haters. Seriously, the point of reading a blog like this for hobbyist in the miles and points game is to stay at hotels or go on holidays that we would normally not afford for cash. So it only makes sense to get these stays for FREE, not value it over a $1000/night and expect to pay $50 for redeeming a reward stay. It’s called a rewards program for a reason! Imagine, if you looked at it in a different perspective, I bet people will start complaining when Credit cards starts charging FEES and TAXES just to redeem your cash back dollars. How ridiculous does that sound to you?


It pains me but I have to give credit to debit. Luca Pacioli (the father of double entry bookkeeping ) would be proud.


I personally hate “destination fees” — especially those on “free” night stays — but I must say that’s the best value destination fee I’ve ever seen. When I pay them — like at the Kimpton chain — I typically get absolutely nothing. For this reason, I try to use my free nights at Marriott and IHG overseas (typically no resort/destination fees).


Sounds like you can’t really afford the place, nor is it your usual lifestyle? Complaining about a $50fee when your staying for free at a true 5 star that easily cost more than a grand a night. Glad they upped the redemption points, maybe that will keep some of the cheapskates away.


If u read the one post he and THE Wife spend like S1/2 a mill a year on CC’s ..I’ll go back now to my Hot noodles for dinner then BK leftovers.
LOL too HaHa


“Half a mill” is low for a MSer. Be very surprised if Greg’s not spending >7 figures a year, but perhaps the blog takes up too much time?


You know there are other ways to transfer large amounts of money .

Aus Biker

Someone @ DOC suggested asking for $25 worth of haircut each day you’re a guest.

TJ at The Art of Travel Hacking

Great review – thanks for sharing! Those strawberries look good.