Given Marriott’s announced new program, I’ve been thinking a lot about different options for earning high level elite status (see this post for ideas: Marriott SPG Windows of Opportunity). The new program has three levels of meaningful elite status: Platinum 50* (requires 50 nights per year), Platinum Premier 75 (requires 75 nights per year), and Platinum Premier 100 (requires 100 nights per year, plus $20K spend). It has occurred to me that if one was ever to go for Platinum Premier 75, this may be the perfect year to do so.
* There isn’t really an elite level called “Platinum 50”, it will just be called “Platinum Elite”. I find it helpful to include the nights required in the name, though, to make it clear that I’m not talking about the pre-August Platinum status which requires 75 nights.
Platinum status perks
In the new program starting August this year, Platinum 50 status will offer the following meaningful perks (a full list can be found here):
- 4PM Late Checkout
- Room upgrade includes suites when available
- Welcome gift (free breakfast is one option and it will be available at resorts)
- Lounge access
- Annual Choice Benefit: 5 Suite Night Awards or Gift Option
Platinum Premier 75 adds the following:
- Additional Choice Benefit: 5 Suite Night Awards or Gift Option
- 48 Hour Guarantee
- United Airlines Silver Premier status by enrolling in RewardsPlus.
Platinum Premier 100 adds the following:
- Ambassador Service
- Your24: Request any check-in time for an upcoming stay
- United Airlines Gold Premier status via RewardsPlus? This has not been confirmed.
The benefits offered in the above list that I care most about are available to Platinum 50 members: 4PM late checkout, free breakfast & lounge access. Prior to this year, I’ve had Marriott Platinum status for the past 5 years and I’ve both gotten a lot of value from these perks and have been frustrated when they weren’t available at resorts or Courtyard hotels (both of these issues will be corrected in the new program). I consider the suite night awards a nice to have addition. Sure I would like to get United elite status from the next level of status, and I’d especially like to get the Your24 option from top level status, but I’m pretty happy with the collection of benefits available at the 50 night level.
If I’m happy with Platinum, why consider going to Platinum Premier 75?
In the past, Marriott has always offered “soft landings” to elites who didn’t qualify for the same level of status that they had before. This means that Marriott would drop them down to the next level of status rather than taking away their status altogether. For example, if you had Platinum status, but didn’t re-qualify, you would be given Gold status the next year (sometimes they even gave Platinum status just for the heck of it, but that never happened to me). If that practice continues then this may be the year to go to Platinum Premier 75, even if you only really care about Platinum.
This year only, it should be possible to get up to 40 elite nights simply by having credit cards: SPG consumer and business cards (5 nights each), and Marriott Premier consumer and business cards (15 nights each). Next year, each card will offer 15 nights, but those nights won’t stack. So, this year only, it is possible to get Platinum status with just 10 nights above those offered through credit cards. If you achieve Platinum 50 status that way, your status will be good for all of 2019 and through Feb 2020. After this year, you’ll need 35 nights to re-qualify for Platinum 50 status since your credit cards will offer a maximum of 15 elite nights.
This year, for anyone with all four credit cards, it’s a no-brainer to go for Platinum 50. In my case, I’ve already earned 3 SPG nights and have 3 Marriott nights reserved (two with free night certificates from my Marriott credit cards). The extra 4 nights needed will happen easily with my usual travel.
The question is whether to go beyond Platinum 50. In the future it will require 35 nights above the 15 offered by credit card membership to get to Platinum 50. Once you have Platinum 50, though, it requires only 25 nights to get to the next level of status. As a result, if the new Marriott program continues to support soft landings, you should be able to lock in two years of Platinum now at a reduced rate (where “rate” = number of elite nights earned).
Let’s compare multiple options for earning 50 night Platinum status for the next 2+ years, assuming that you currently have (or will get this year) all four credit cards:
Option 1: Earn status each year
Assuming you have all 4 credit cards in year 1 and at least one credit card past year 1:
- 2018: 10 nights required above those given by credit card membership. Status is good until Feb 2020.
- 2019: 35 nights* required above credit card membership. Status is good until Feb 2021.
Option total: 45 Nights required to keep Platinum 50 status until Feb 2021.
* Alternatively, it will be possible to earn Platinum status through $75K credit card spend with the new SPG Luxury card.
Option 2: Earn Platinum Premier 75 status this year
Assuming you have all 4 credit cards in year 1 and at least one credit card past year 1:
- 2018: 35 elite nights earned through stays or meetings will get you to Platinum Premier 75. Status is good until Feb 2020.
- 2019: Relax and enjoy Platinum Premier 75 status
- 2020: In March you’ll hopefully be soft landed to Platinum 50. Status would be good until Feb 2021.
Option total: 35 Nights required to keep Platinum 50 status until Feb 2021.
Option 3: Alternate years
Assuming you have all 4 credit cards in year 1 and at least one credit card past year 1:
When you obtain Marriott elite status, that status is good for the rest of the current year, all of the next year, and through February of the year after that. Assuming the Feb end date remains as-is, it is then possible to alternate years to keep status continually:
- 2018: 10 nights required above those given by credit card membership. Status is good until Feb 2020.
- 2019: Enjoy status this year, but don’t pursue renewing it.
- 2020: In January and Feb, earn the 35 nights* required above credit card membership. Status is good until Feb 2022.
Option total: 45 Nights required to keep Platinum 50 status until Feb 2022 (note that this option extends status for an extra year over the other options).
* Alternatively, it will be possible to earn Platinum status through $75K credit card spend with the new SPG Luxury card.
Option 4: Be happy with Platinum 50 through Feb 2020
Assuming you have all 4 credit cards in year 1:
In many ways this is the most prudent option. As I wrote earlier, I’m going to get Platinum 50 status this year through credit card membership and regular stays with no additional effort required:
- 2018: 10 nights required above those given by credit card membership. Status is good until Feb 2020.
Option total: 10 Nights required to keep Platinum 50 status until Feb 2021 2020.
In 2020 I could switch to Hilton which offers some of the same perks and requires only credit card membership to get to meaningful status. Or, better yet, I could forget about loyalty altogether and just pay for the things I need.
Choices, choices…
If I really didn’t care about the additional perks of Platinum Premier 75, then options 3 and 4 are arguably best. In fact, they’re compatible with each other: both would have me earn Platinum 50 status this year and then I could wait until 2020 to decide whether to abandon Marriott loyalty (option 4) or go with the every other year plan (option 3). In fact, with the every other year plan it may be possible to do a Marriott Platinum challenge now and then to secure the next two years of status with just 9 separate stays.
On the other hand, there are a few factors that are tipping the scales towards seeking Platinum Premier 75 this year (option 2):
- I may have a stay or two this year before August where I’ll book multiple rooms. If I can book Starwood properties, I’ll get elite credit for each room. This is an option that won’t be available when the programs merge in August.
- In August, top tier SPG properties will suddenly be significantly less expensive to book with points, but the best deals will last only until early 2019 (see: The huge wins in Marriott’s announcement) I’m eager to take advantage of some of these deals. St. Regis Princeville? Sign me up! If I book those stays for this year, the stays will help me get to Platinum Premier 75. If I book those stays for next year’s travel or for late this year, I should then be able to take advantage of the 5 additional Suite Night Awards that come with Platinum Premier 75.
- The ability to earn 10 elite nights by hosting a meeting will continue in the new program, but it’s unclear whether the terms and enforcement will remain the same. In other words, if I want to earn elite nights through hosting meetings, it’s somewhat safer to do so before August.
- This year it’s possible to earn elite night credits from credit card spend on the Marriott credit cards: Each $3,000 in spend gets you 1 elite night. I think it’s likely that this option will go away next year (but we don’t know that for sure). Given that our current Reasonable Redemption Value of Marriott points is 0.72 cents each, we can estimate the opportunity cost of this spend compared to the same spend on a 2% cash back card: $3000 x (.02 -0.007) = $39 per elite night. That’s a cheap price for an easy alternative to a mattress run.
OK, yeah. I’ve convinced myself. I’m going to go for it. Platinum Premier 75, here I come. And I hope to do it primarily through actual stays booked with points at fantastic resorts. I haven’t told my wife about this plan yet, but I have a feeling she’ll approve…
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I’m trying to work another angle. I am currently Marriott Gold and I enrolled in a Gold to Platinum challenge which ends 8/31 and I will hit that goal. I will then be Marriott Platinum under the old categories, which should translate to Platinum 75 rather than Platinum 50 when the levels change over. Hopefully it works.
Note: repost of comment from “Marriott SPG Windows of Opportunity” since its more relevant here.
hey greg/nick.
in which post do u talk about hitting status strategy before the AUG 1 and Jan 1 cut-over? i thot it would be clearly spelled out in “Marriott Platinum Premier 75. Should I go for it?”, but it really focuses on your personal situation. which is fine, but where do you talk about the overall strategy for various situations? meaning, lets talk about qualifying for 2019/2020 status under current rules and what will happen after the cut-over.
for example, someone who has already qualified for SPG plat for all 2018/2019 until 2020 based on 25 stays. same for SPG golds. what do we need to do before Aug 1st if anything and what about before Jan 1st 2019? SPG plat should get Marriott PP until 2020.
furthermore, the new program eliminates stay-based elite qualification and has min spend for 100 night Ambassador status. so it looks like we have to gun it for the SPG status before Aug 1st right? all SPG Plats get Marriott PP right? but until when? until 2020 if we are SPG Plat by Aug1st?? and i would think people want to qualify for Ambassador status without meeting the $20,000 minimum spend requirement. so all your 40 EQN via CC may be good but for those that dont have the cards, theres a different strategy too. thats key for many i would think.
also you have a few posts on the merger announcement, but there should be one big MASTER THREAD POST to summarize all the various posts so your fans have one place to reference. that would be a huge help for us or maybe im just talking for myself.
just to clarify and add:
many are still super confused about the new elite status pre/post AUG 1st and Jan 1st 2019. i myself is even still searching for definitive answers. especially around matching. its been noted that matching does NOT count.
its not just about Ritz Gold and Amex Plat Gold, but also, things like will SPG Plat (less than 50) get Marriott PP post Aug 1st for 2018 and into 2019? or will SPG Plat only get Marriott Plat 50 vs PP after Aug 1st thru 2018, but drop to Marriott Gold in 2019 unless the combined EQNs are over 50 or 75 to get back up to Plat 50/75?
many still believe SPG Plat (under 50) will match to Marriott Plat which will get PP after Aug 1st. not sure if thats true. still many questions.
It’ll be hard for me to stay platinum yearly at 35 nights as I have bursts of travel, I have this sort of educated guess that the Marriott Chase business card will have some sort of incremental spend for nights, perhaps $5k instead of $3k that stacks w/ the 15. If they do this I will go all in on Marriott, if not I will use up points etc as the status winds down then just go w/ hotels.com and pay for breakfast etc, if we need a suite for a family situation just go to Homewood or Embassy, in fact Hilton Gold w/ breakfast will start looking really really good.
seems both SPG and marriot business cards don’t have 5 or 15 nights at sign up any more
SPG definitely does. Marriott business doesn’t list it anymore, but I believe it still works.
Do you know if the regular Marriott Rewards Credit Card’s 10 elite nights can be stacked on top as well? If so, that would get us to 50 just through cards!
I don’t know. Do you have both Marriott personal cards?
No, but I think I was looking at a legacy card that isn’t offered anymore. NVM!
If I apply for the Ritz card now, it seems I will be upgraded to the new Platinum 50 in August.However how long would I have Platinum 50 just until Feb 2019 or a for a year from receiving card? Have week long trip to Maui March 2019 and free breakfast would be nice. Thanks
I haven’t yet been able to get any answers from Marriott about how the Ritz status will work
In terms of lifetime platinum, let’s say that I earned platinum 75 in 2018, valid through feb 2020.
Then let’s say in 2019 I only had a few nights, and Marriott downgraded me as a courtesy to just platinum 50 through feb 2021.
18 earned platinum
19 courtesy platinum
20 extension of the platinum period.
Would I have one year or three years of platinum for lifetime purposes?
Also, do previous years of Starwood 25 stay platinum status — 50 nights not reached — count towards the minimum ten years for lifetime platinum 50 under the new rules?
Wondering if spending a couple of thousand dollars plus per year on unneeded and unwanted nights from 2020 through 2022 would be worth it. Would be buying some of the points now through my Amex card.
Thank you
I think you’d actually have 2 years. When you qualify in 2018 it is for the 2019 elite year (even though you get the status in 2018 once you qualify). Then the soft landing would be for the 2020 elite year.
Yes SPG platinum years will count regardless of how they were obtained.
I’m a lowly Marriott Silver with 13 rollover nights from 2017. I should be getting my 15 nights from my Marriott credit card on 6/1/18 (that’s when I expect the $85 AF to post).
With 2 SPG cards that I already have (gives me 10 nights) and a 7 night Marriott redemption in November and using my free night certificate from the Marriott credit card , that should get me to 28+10+7+1=46 nights towards reaching Plat50. So I only need 4 more nights this year to qualify for Plat50 until Feb 2020, correct?
Correct
Greg, do you know whether it is *currently* possible to sign up for the Marriott business card and get 15 nights worth of credit toward elite status? That offer was available recently, but when I click the link on your “best offers” page, and when I look at other landing pages, i.e., https://creditcards.chase.com/a1/marriottbusiness/naep/8TK?CELL=6FLZ or https://creditcards.chase.com/marriott/apply/compare_cards, it seems that is no longer available. Instead, along with the sign-up point bonus and the free annual night, the offers promise (1) automatic silver status and (2) gold status following $50,000 in spend. I see no mention of the 15 nights worth of credit.
If it’s still possible to sign up now for the business card to stack 15 nights with the 15 from the personal card, I’d like to do it.
Thanks!
I believe it still works but you’re right that it isn’t explicitly mentioned
My personal Marriott credit card is due for a renewal in October. Will I still receive the 15 nights credit then?
If you haven’t already received those 15 nights for this year, then yes.
Greg – Looking over the Marriott Business CrCard offer today and no longer see any mention of 15 nights credit, The personal Marriott card shows it in the offer but not the business card. I have the personal card and I’d get the business card if that offer is still available…any thoughts on where that offer may still be posted? Or is it simply gone now?
“you earn 15 credits toward Elite Status annually, after your account anniversary” – doesn’t look like you get it year 1.
Has the 15 night language ever been there on the business version? I’m not seeing it now either…
I am interested in this also. If I sign up for the business card, will the 15 nights be applied now like with the personal card? Or will they be applied at the first anniversary?
I found the following language in the offer terms. It talks about silver status, but it defines an “Account Anniversary Year.” I think this means the 15 elite nights should be applied after the account is opened. Thoughts?
“AUTOMATIC SILVER ELITE STATUS: You will automatically receive Silver Elite Status each account anniversary year as a cardmember (“Account anniversary year” means the year beginning with account open date through the anniversary of your account open date, and each 12 months after that).”
Yeah, I *think* this means that you’ll get 15 nights upon account opening since it says “…the year beginning with account open date…”
Hey Greg—Thanks for this super helpful post and for answering all of your readers questions. I don’t think I saw an answer yet to this one:
If I hit 25 stays with SPG exclusively by 12/31 of this year will I have Platinum Premiere 75 until Feb 2020 or do I have to hit 25 stays before 8/1? What happens if I don’t make the 8/1 deadline and only hit the 25 SPG stays by 12/31?
Thanks!
By 12/31 is fine. That status should last until Feb 2020
Are the 10 nights for meetings with SPG or Marriott?
Marriott until August, then either