PSA: Those Caribbean JetBlue same-day turns might not work out

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I’ve spent the past couple of days picking up the first few airports as my family chases the 25 airports to complete the JetBlue 25 for 25 promotion. Part of our early plans involved very cheap same-day turns on Caribbean routes from San Juan to St. Thomas and St. Croix. After barely making it in St. Thomas, we cancelled the same-day turn in St. Croix, realizing that it just wasn’t possible.

Flights between San Juan and the US Virgin Islands are among the cheapest in the JetBlue network

Along the planning process for our JetBlue travels, I stumbled on the fact that JetBlue operates some Caribbean routes out of San Juan with very attractive pricing.

Blue fares between San Juan and the US Virgin Islands are among the cheapest I’ve seen, with San Juan to St. Thomas and St. Croix as inexpensive as about $75 one-way from San Juan. It sometimes costs a bit more in the opposite direction, but given the very short distances/flights (San Juan to St. Thomas involves a flight time of about 16 minutes!), these look like a great way to pick up several airports in a very short period of time.

Keep in mind though that JetBlue sells tickets both for JetBlue-operated flights and Cape Air-operated flights between the islands. However, the Cape Air flights do not count for 25 for 25. There is just one JetBlue-operated flight in and out St. Thomas and St. Croix each day. The same plane arrives and turns around to go back to San Juan.

Since it’s the same plane, these flights look like the perfect opportunity to do a same-day turn (in other words, to fly to the destination — in this case, St. Thomas or St. Croix — and turn back around to fly back (to San Juan). Since Puerto Rico and the US Virgin Islands  are both US territory, I assumed this would work like any domestic flight. I envisioned getting off the plane at the gate and just standing there for a few minutes until boarding began to get on the flight back to San Juan.

However, I probably should have been tipped off that a same-day turn isn’t a good idea when JetBlue told me that I couldn’t buy it . . . .

As you can see above, when you try to buy a “round trip” ticket, JetBlue says that the flights overlap. Google flights makes it look like this round trip can be purchased.

I thought maybe the system was just programmed to disallow less than an hour between directions because in most such situations, any delay would make the return impossible to make. However, in this case, I figured that there was no real cause for concern since the flights are operated by the same plane — if the outbound were delayed, the return would be as well. I went ahead and booked the legs separately. That’s when I learned why they didn’t allow this….

The US Virgin Islands are in a separate customs area

When we arrived in St. Thomas, we disembarked down a staircase on the tarmac. To my surprise, the only entry point to the terminal was to baggage claim. All passengers need to exit the secure area of the airport.

That came as a surprise to me — as did the fact that, to get to the gate area once again, we had to pass through not only airport security but US Customs also. I later learned that is because that while the US Virgin Islands are part of US territory, they are not part of the customs territory of the United States. All travelers pass through US customs on the way out of the Virgin Islands.

Still, as we had about an hour between arrival and departure, I figured that we would probably be OK. We got through the customs line relatively quickly and the security line didn’t look unmanageable. However, it moved slowly. As the minutes passed, my wife’s anxiety just about reached a boiling point. Our flight was already boarding by the time we got to the TSA officer and the line was moving very slowly to get to the scanners.

Thankfully, we made the flight — getting on eight or nine minutes before the boarding door was scheduled to close. As it turned out, the door didn’t quite close on time as the flight waited for a few more stragglers, so we got on with time to spare, but not nearly as much time to spare as my better half would have preferred.

The next day, we had the same-day turn booked to St. Croix. However, I cancelled it when I learned that the same situation would repeat, but with even less time between flights. The St. Croix flight was scheduled to land 12 minutes before boarding would begin for the flight to San Juan. The Internet suggests that the security line at St. Croix moves particularly slowly in the afternoon. I didn’t think it likely that we’d arrive, get out of the secure area, and make it all the way back in time to board the flight to San Juan.

We didn’t have the time to change our return to San Juan to the next day, so we abandoned plans and simply flew home from San Juan.

I’ll note that it might be a little faster if you have TSA PreCheck (we don’t, but now I wish we did!). Still, I would highly recommend planning an overnight on both islands if you plan to pick them up en route to the 25 for 25 milestones. St. Thomas has a few Wyndham properties and a Marriott along with a Hampton by Hilton scheduled to open in the coming months. St. Croix has a Marriott that can sometimes be bookable with a Marriott 35K certificate. It’s easy enough to plan an overnight — save yourself the stress and plan a night between flights.

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Rachael Tampone

Mention what you’re doing to the flight attendants, ground crew, and gate agent! They were aware of the challenge and walked us through a back entrance to the gate. Never needed to leave or re-enter!

Brett

DP from today for SJU-STT and back. Took 19 minutes from physically getting off plane to clearing security and joining the boarding line to get back on.
6 mins to get to bag claim, and 12-13 to get thru customs – TSA.
TSA had only one machine scanning, so precheck didn’t expedite except to not have to remove electronics.
Considering the published gap between Flight 1 touchdown and Flight 2 doors close was 33 mins… and IME experience the doors didn’t actually close until 20 mins after that… I think this route is pretty doable for same day turn.
Side note they unload plane from front and back. I paid $14 to sit up front (row 8) assuming I would need the time, but if you’re close to back it’s the same deboarding time.

Brett

DP from today for SJU-STT and back. It Took 19 minutes from physically getting off plane to clearing security and joining the boarding line to get back on.
6 mins to get out to bag claim, and 12-13 mins to get thru customs & TSA. There was 0 wait for customs, it was all TSA.
TSA had only one machine scanning, so precheck didn’t expedite except to not have to remove electronics.
Considering the published gap between Flight 1 “touchdown” and Flight 2 “doors close” was 33 mins… and IME the doors didn’t actually close until 20+ mins after that… I think this route is quite doable for a same day turn.
Side note at STT they unload plane from front AND back. I paid $14 extra to sit up front (row 8) assuming I would need the time, but if you’re close to the back it’s the same deboarding time.
Thanks nick for publishing your experience about having to leave / come back, so it wasn’t a surprise to me!

Dee

I’d be happy with a direct flight from RSW (southwest Florida) to San Juan, PR

Bob

How are you writing for a travel site and don’t have TSA precheck?

Andrew

I totally get not bothering with Global Entry for the family – my P2 doesn’t want to drive out or do the interview on arrival after a long trip either – but TSA Precheck is much simpler to enroll in. Nick you hit up enough Staples on gift card runs I would think it’d be an easy side pick up while there.

I originally got precheck after traveling with a coworker who didn’t like showing up to Dallas Love Field until about 60 minutes before the flight. He’d breeze through security while the rest of us would barely get to the gate in time for boarding. He had the rental car so we went on his schedule!

P2 didn’t want to bother until an unusually busy security day at our home airport put us a few minutes from missing a flight out. Would have cleared security in 5 minutes with precheck. Now that we have it family travel is much easier – kids get it automatically traveling with their precheck parent and we almost never get asked to remove electronics, liquids, or other items from bags. Used to help for shoes too but that doesn’t matter anymore. In addition to domestic flights it works on at least some transborder routes from Canada where there is preclearance of customs.

klsd

Isn’t there a DC airport that has Global Entry sign-ups on departure? surely you could route through one of those airports to do the sign up

klsd

With all the CC Nick +family have, it’s amazing that they don’t have pre-check. Does that mean they are not using Global Entry either? Global Entry includes pre-check. I’m stunned.

Kevin

I do what I can to maximize my points but I rarely can be more flexible than a day or two with my traveling. I’m also curious if there are any websites out there that offer the discount business class seats for like $1000 each way to Europe or something like that. I’ve seen ratepunk and sky Lux advertised and I wondered how they work.

Bob

Never heard of anyone regretting they got TSA precheck.

Juan

Nick, love the amazing content you post and so sorry to feel the urge to re-iterate the whole thing about GE/TSA precheck. I just wanted to add a slightly different thought based on a reply of yours earlier regarding driving 70 miles to a Staples for TSA pre-check. I assume getting global entry (which comes with TSA precheck) would be a lot easier, even if you don’t care for the global entry itself. Many airports participate in enrollment on arrival, so once conditionally approved (which admittedly can sometimes take a few months and may not benefit your family for this challenge) you simply make the global entry line when going through customs on your next international trip and tell them you are doing the EoA interview. They ask you a question or two, take a picture, and then you’re done and now have both TSA precheck and global entry. And you didn’t have to do anything extra except submit an online application (assuming your credit card reimburses the cost) and wait for the next trip you were already taking. I understand you may see the benefit as not being that high, but also the cost/effort is close to zero (when we have credit cards that cover the monetary cost)!

LarryInNYC

I fly a fair amount and also don’t have pre-check. Often have priority due to status or class of service and, when I don’t, rarely looks like I’d save more than five minutes.

Dave Hanson

Larry, since you fly often, the easy way to do it would be to set an appointment at an airport your flying through. Honestly think you’d find the minimal hassle more worthwhile!

LarryInNYC

Maybe. I didn’t do it some years ago because they require you to list all the countries you’ve been too, and that might have made them uncomfortable. I think I’m outside the “statute of limitations” for the particular island I have in mind. I should probably get around to it.

Mark Doyle

How you fly so much, but neglected to get Precheck long ago is mind-boggling…

marco

You are the definition of intrepid. great reporting!

Aunteeeee

I had one of these planned, so thanks for the heads up.