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My wife and I had three American Express Business Platinum cards in which the $695 renewal fees posted in early July. That meant that we had until early August to cancel these cards in order to avoid paying those annual fees (Amex gives you 30 days from when the renewal fee posts to cancel without penalty). So, in July we prepared, and yesterday, we went about cancelling all three cards…
Preparing to cancel Business Platinum cards
In early July, when I realized that we had to cancel these cards in August, we prepared as follows:
Don’t lose Membership Rewards points
If you have Membership Rewards points and are looking to cancel any card that earns Membership Rewards, it’s important to make sure that you’ll still have at least one card open that earns those points. As long as you have one Membership Rewards card open, you won’t lose points even if they were earned with the card you’re about to close.
My wife and I each have several other cards that earn Membership Rewards points, so that wasn’t an issue for us. If we didn’t, I would look to sign up for a new card before cancelling the old.
Use credits
Business Platinum cards have a few valuable credits that I like to use up before cancelling: Airline Incidental Fee credits; Dell credits; and wireless phone credits. Here’s how I approached each…
Airline incidental fees
Each Business Platinum card reimburses up to $200 each calendar year on fees charged by your selected airline. We had selected Delta for all three cards. My first step was to check for the latest info about what works and what doesn’t here: Amex Airline Fee Reimbursements. What still works? I saw that booking flights with a combination of cash and miles with miles no longer works to make the ticket look like a fee, but paying a portion of a ticket with airline credit and or gift cards still works. My wife and I each had some Delta credits in our accounts and so I booked economy flights (but not basic economy since those aren’t freely cancelable!) that were at least $200 above the amount of credit we had each time. I could have alternatively booked award tickets with high fees since that would have worked too, but now that paid flights other than basic economy are freely cancelable, I’m just as happy to buy cash tickets when that makes sense for my needs.
Within four days of each ticket purchase, the fee credits posted to our accounts.
Dell credits
Amex Business Platinum cards offer $200 in Dell credits from January to June each year, and then another $200 from July to December. I had already used our credits for the first half of the year but now had to hurry to use the new July – Dec credits.
I made most of my purchases while Rakuten was briefly offering 15 points per dollar at Dell. This way, it almost didn’t matter what I bought — I would still earn valuable rewards. Unfortunately, my favorite Dell product, Xbox gift cards (which can be used for anything at the Microsoft store) have long been out of stock on most days. But luckily I was able to get some good stuff. I bought needed travel chargers and cables, Bose headphones, and several Anker 633 Magnetic Batteries (for the latter, I had at first bought just one, but I liked it so much that I bought a couple more to give as gifts).
Wireless phone credits
Business Platinum cards offer up to $10 back per month on wireless service spend. Each month, I automatically pay our AT&T wireless bill with one Business Platinum card and then I separately overpay $10 with each of our other Business Platinum cards. In July, it was business as usual doing this for each of the cards.
Canceling our cards
It’s possible to cancel Amex cards via chat when logged into your Amex account. We waited until after 9 am on a weekday to do this because it is believed that you’ll only be given retention offers if you do this during business hours. I didn’t think it was likely but I hoped to get a good offer or two to convince us to keep one or two of the cards for another year.
Long story short: No retention offers for us.
Each chat rep immediately offered to cancel the card after we requested to cancel them. One chat rep cancelled the wrong card, but a subsequent chat fixed that problem.
Cleaning up
I took each of the cancelled cards out of the binder they live in and moved them to a credit card graveyard binder that I keep just for fun. I would have cut them up, but they’re made of Unobtainium, or something like that, and are impervious to scissors.
I also marked the cards as cancelled in the Travel Freely app and in a spreadsheet I use to keep track of cards, offers, and credits.
Next steps
If Amex continues to target us with “Expand your membership” Business Platinum offers as they have in the past, I’m hoping to get in on a couple of those deals near the end of the year. That way, if I play my credit cards correctly, I’ll be able to triple dip some of the cards’ perks before I cancel in January 2025.
> One chat rep cancelled the wrong card, but a subsequent chat fixed that problem.
LOL. But dang they always make us call in to cancel our business cards 🙁
How are you getting multiple business platinum cards? Do you have different businesses or can you have multiple cards for the same business? Are you getting SUB’s for each new card you open?
For a few years, Amex kept offering “expand your membership “ offers for new business platinum cards. It seemed you could get as many as you wanted, along with a 150k bonus each time. I haven’t seen those for the last few months though.
Hey Greg,
Recently downgraded my business platinum to green and have been getting the 150k offer under my “amex offers and benefits”. Is it safe to say I can reapply for the same card again after just downgraded and get the SUB again with my same EIN, etc? Says reapproval, has my business name, etc.
Earn 150,000 Membership Rewards® Points after you spend $15,000 on purchases on the Business Platinum Card® within the first 3 months of Card Membership.† You are pre-approved.*
*Approval is not guaranteed and is subject to checks. This offer is only available to you and may not be available if you leave.
Thank you!
Yes it’s safe to apply. If for some reason they don’t think you are eligible for the welcome bonus, a pop-up will tell you that and you’ll have a chance to withdraw the application.
“I would have cut them up, but they’re made of Unobtainium, or something like that, and are impervious to scissors.”
Somebody needs to get Greg a set of Cutco Super Shears. They’ll cut through those Platinum cards like butter.
Does paying your cell phone bill with multiple cards violate the cell phone inurance policy offered by Amex? I believe you need to pay the bill in full with one specfic card for the insurance to be valid.
I do pay it in full each month with one of the cards and then overpay it with others. As long as I make a claim through the card where I paid in full, I believe it will be safe.
they offered me retention offers of 40k pts or $300 after $30k spend within 6 months on the Business Plat, 10k pts after $5k in 3 months for Business Gold and $50 credit for $2k spend in 3 months on Blue Business Cash
I just got offered 20k points for $20k spend in 6 months on the first Bus Plat and 40K points for $30k spend on the second. I cancelled them both. I wonder if I’ll get any more offers for NLL cards?
You should be able to quadruple dip the Dell benefit, right?
You should get it in Dec 2023, then Jan-June 2024, July-Dec 2024, and again in Jan 2025
Yes that’s true
You say “One chat rep cancelled the wrong card,” This also happened to me via a chat even though I specifically said which card to cancel and provided the last 5 digits which were unique. Unlike your experience it was a hassle and took over 3 weeks to undo the cancellation of the wrong card. In the meanwhile Amex clawed back a bonus I had earned on the card that was wrongly cancelled. I eventually got the bonus back but it took longer than it should have. I now make extra sure the person I am chatting with reiterates which card I want cancelled.
That’s a good idea. Yep: in my chat I specifically listed the last 5 digits but they closed a card where the final 4 digits matched.
I have had – and cancelled – 5 Biz Plat cards so far.
Amex keeps targeting me with 150K point offers.
I don’t understand their policy.
I get about $2K+ our of those points by booking air travel.
$695 annual fee, $15K minimum spend; if they make 5% on the spend,
the math comes out to be approx. $1450 for them … i.e.:
They lose on the deal each time !
They know I’m not going to keep the card.
I have even asked in the chat: “Why do you guys keep doing that?” …
They couldn’t answer that question …
same boat here. Between my wife and I we have 8 business platinum, they love us. now we do run a ton of spend through them, well over $200k a year for sure. I literally just canceled a biz card with them and the next day got the email for 150k offer. I accepted it and another one in the mix. I just cancel after a year and rotate around with new ones until they quit liking us.
Seems Amex has dramatically cut back on their NLL biz plat offers. I used to get a new offer every 2-3 months, now it’s more like 6+ assuming I get one at all.
Yep, I used to get bombarded by them but have only seen them lately on my wife’s account
is this your first renewal? I read somewhere how for Amex it’s strongly recommended to at least pay 2 annual fees (can include initial sign up one) before closing accounts, to prevent pop up prison.
It was the first renewal for I think 2 of the 3 cards.
Dont I run the risk of a clawback once I cancel the airline ticket bought using the airline credit + gift card or high fee award ticket?
Yes that’s possible if you refund the ticket to your credit card, but if you refund it to airline credit, it’s fine.
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I think I read somewhere you won’t get a retention offer until 13 months if you had a retention offer before on the same card. So with the same annual timing, if you got one in year 1 you won’t in year 2. You could wait another month to see what it is, and if not acceptable downgrade to green to get a prorated refund (as stated). I just cancelled one as well for P2.
Interesting. Maybe I’ll try that next time!
There have been reports that too many card cancellations will lead to an absence of NLL offers. While I was just approved for an ABP and ABG via NLL, my wife and I are both now receiving a “no SUB for you” pop-up for “regular” applications.
Same. Has me thinking ….
Do they prorate the AF ?
If after 30 day window and you’ve paid the AF but then downgrade to a gold/green (we’ve already got SUB previously on Grn/Gld). Can’t find any current DPs
Thanks
If you cancel: no. If you downgrade: yes.
yes