ThankYou Citi, can I keep my points?

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Lately, whenever I post anything about earning 5 points per dollar with Citibank ThankYou cards, commenters point out that there are risks of being shut down.  Some have pointed me to this FlyerTalk thread: “Citi cards closed for Perk Abuse.”  In that thread, people have reported having their Citibank accounts abruptly shut down.  Some account closures seem to have been triggered by excessive spend.  Some may have been triggered when customers called to redeem points for mortgage payments. 

I would like to be able to write-up a definitive guide to what has happened, but it is unclear. As is usually the case with such things, Citibank hasn’t offered any useful explanations for closing accounts.  And, there’s no telling whether all of the self-reports on FlyerTalk are even true.  Sometimes people purposely spread fear to try to keep the best deals to themselves.  Is that happening here?  I don’t know.

How to keep your points safe

Nobody wants to earn points and have them abruptly taken away.  Nor does anyone want to have Citibank close all of their accounts and potentially blacklist them from new offers.  At the same time, the allure of 5 points per dollar is tough to resist.  Here are my best guesses of how to stay safe:

  • Limit total spend: Frugal Travel Guy suggests limiting spend to half of your credit limit each month.  That sounds like a good rule of thumb to me.  If you have a very high limit, I’d further argue that you’d be wise to stick with less than $5K per month.
  • Mix in regular spend: If all of your spend is at a drugstore (where you’ve been buying reload cards or gift cards) that would probably look suspicious.  There’s nothing illegal with doing that, but you still don’t want to raise any warning flags.  I recommend using the card for your day to day groceries and gas purchases as well to help mix things up.
  • Be wary of mortgage & student loan redemptions: Other than redeeming for flights at 1.33 cents per point (see “ThankYou!“), the next most valuable options are to redeem for mortgage payments or student loan payments at 1 cent per point.  Unfortunately, there have been some reports of people being shut down when they called for these redemptions (which are not available online).  If you’re nervous, go with flights or gift cards instead.
  • Redeem often: The best way to protect yourself from losing your points is to use them as soon as they’re available.  Some people have taken to cashing out their balance each month by ordering gift cards.  This is the one piece of advice listed here that I probably won’t follow myself.  I like getting 1.33 cents per point value when redeeming for flights, and so I’ll wait for those opportunities to use my points.

I need to reiterate that the above guidelines are just guesses.  If you follow these guidelines, there is no guarantee that your points will be safe.  Similarly, if you go outside the bounds of these suggestions, there is no proof that you will be in danger.  We simply do not know for sure.

Reader Experiences

If any readers here have had their accounts shut down by Citibank, please let us know the circumstances.  Did you go outside of the guidelines suggested above?  If so, in what way?  Or, have you successfully exceeded these guidelines without getting shut down (yet)?  How far have you taken things?  Please comment below!

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Max

Marathon Man: I agree that the reports sound convincing. Yet it could be a very clever campaign by some competitor (e.g. Chase), since I don’t know those screen names. It’s just our traditional American way to dispense justice in the right sequence
First, prove beyond doubt who’s the guilty party; then whack them with appropriate punishment, like a boycott or bad PR.

marathon man

Max I know some of the people offline and not just on FT. Those people are real.

marathon man

Max: Do you not believe all these people? I do. And I am very worried about my own accounts even if I know I have done no wrong. Why? Because I have seen this played out many times before. What you are basically saying is, Well it aint happened to me, so it must be a problem with just those people. That my friend is exactly how Citi would win this!

Jason

Citi is Citi, America’s great bank. They shutdown some cards. It’s no big deal. Let those people spread the fraud. Everybody is afraid and stop buying GC and VR. GC volume will go straight down from here. They don’t expect small group can do anything. Goal is achieved.

marathon man

Jason they and you would be wrong. People will fight and win.

Max

The next step must be taken by the alleged victims of Citibank (collecting documentation, etc). Those who have not had adverse interactions with Citi at this point are relying on hearsay — and that’s not enough to start a boycott.

marathon man

Thehawk75… You are right. Sorry. I knew id mixed something up lol

And now for something completely different

thehawk75

@Marathon Man: One correction, the Montey Python movie you are referring to is ‘The Meaning of Life’, not, ‘Life of Brian’

Now back to our discussion…

marathon man

Yup! So now alls we have to do is incite a citi wide boycott! (For fear that something we buy may be fraud)!

FrequentMiler

Sure, why not?

marathon man

Finally the point of what im saying is that maybe we can scare everyone with any citi cc out there to stop buying anything with it. Even those who never heard of ft or this blog. Everyone and every citi card. Make people reluctant to trust it.
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Even if only for a few days! Worth a try right?

marathon man

And what im saying is… If this is really what they want, give it to them hard!

marathon man

Fm i agree but if thats what the rep told happy, then if she has the reps name, we all need to do this:
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Utterly cause gc panic on purpose.
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Yes, what we all need to do is go viral. Send a message to every cvs to every store ad to every entity that sells any gc to a customer with a citi cc that citi thinks its fraud and to stop selling them to everyone everywhere right now. Cause panic on the titanic scale.
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This will be economic
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And it will wake up those in power who know how wrong citi was.
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Sound crazy? Well it would have an effect