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Now that we have until March 31st to convert hotel points into Companion Pass qualifying Southwest points, I expect that readers will have more interest than ever before in Marriott Travel packages. After all, until March 31st, Marriott Travel Packages offer a fantastic way to get the Southwest Companion pass that will be good for an unlimited number of flights for almost two years!
Here are 12 things that you need to know…
1. What are Marriott Travel Packages?
Marriott travel packages are awards in which you exchange Marriott Rewards points for airline miles plus a certificate for a 7 night stay. You do not need to use the airline miles as part of the trip in which you book your stay. The number of Marriott Rewards points required depends on which package you select (e.g. which type of airline miles you want), how many miles you want (50,000; 70,000; 100,000; or 120,000), and which category of hotel you plan to visit. More details can be found on Marriott’s website, here.
2. What about 5 Night Packages?
5 night packages exist, but they’re intended only for Marriott Vacation Club (timeshare) owners. Some people have been able to book 5 night packages despite this restriction, but most who ask are turned away. In other words, don’t count on being able to book these. If you can somehow book one, they do offer tremendous value. See: Analysis of Marriott Travel Packages: 5 Night vs. 7 Night.
3. Do I have to select a specific hotel before I redeem points for a travel package?
No. When you redeem points for a travel package, you get a certificate that’s good for a full year. In most cases, Marriott reps have been willing to extend the expiration date even further for those who have been unable to redeem their certificate in time.
4. Do I have to know which category of hotel I want before I redeem points for a travel package?
No. My recommendation is to get a Category 1-5 package. If you later want to redeem the 7 nights at a category 6 or higher hotel, you can simply pay the difference in package price at the time your redeem your certificate. For example, if you spend 270,000 Marriott points for a 7 Night Category 1-5 package and later decide to use the certificate in a category 9 hotel, you’ll simply pay the difference in price between the Category 1-5 and Category 9 packages. Since the Category 9 package costs 390,000 points, you would pay the difference: 390,000 – 270,000 = 120,000.
5. Which packages offer the best value?
Until March 31, 2017, Hotel + Air Package 3 offers the best value for those who fly Southwest because Southwest points will count towards the Southwest Companion Pass. By purchasing the 7 Nights + 120,000 Rapid Rewards Points package, you’ll get a Companion Pass good for the rest of 2017 and all of 2018! If you go this route, I highly recommend purchasing the package at least a week before the March 31st deadline to ensure that you receive the points by March 31st.
The next best value is arguably the United RewardsPlus package since it offers the most miles (thanks to the partnership between United and Marriott):
Depending on your mile-needs, Hotel + Air Package 1 may be the best. With this package you can choose from a number of valuable airline programs including Alaska Airlines, American Airlines, and Delta.
Avoid packages 2 and 4 since they offer poor value compared to the others.
6. How many miles should I get?
If you value miles over Marriott Rewards points (and you should!), then always choose the package that is furthest to the right (e.g. 120,000 miles with packages 1 and 3). A good rule of thumb is to first pick the type of miles you want, then pick the package that is in the top, right of the chart. If you don’t have enough Marriott Rewards points it can make sense to buy SPG points to top off your balance (see answer 10 below for more options).
7. Is it hard to use the 7 night certificates?
Unfortunately, yes. To get full value, you have to find a hotel with 7 nights of standard room award availability. Even if you don’t want to stay the full 7 nights, you must book 7 nights in order to use the certificate. You can’t use some nights at one hotel and some at another. You can split up the nights at the same hotel, but only if you book paid nights in-between and on the same reservation. For example, suppose a hotel has award nights available on weekdays, but not weekends. You could then book a 9 night stay and use the certificate to book Monday through Thursday night, pay yourself for Friday and Saturday night, then use the certificate for Sunday and Monday night.
UPDATE 1/23/2017: In a conversation with a Marriott Rewards supervisor, I was told that you can book fewer than 7 nights, but the certificate will have no left over value. This can be very important in situations where the hotel you want to stay at has award nights available for 5 or 6 nights in a row, but not for 7.
8. What are my options if I can’t ever use the certificate?
First, it makes sense to call Marriott Rewards and ask them to extend the validity of the certificate for another year. If you’re sure you won’t use the certificate, though, you can try to get a partial points refund. If you book a 7 Night package costing 270,000 Marriott Rewards points, you should get back 45,000 Marriott Rewards points. If you cancel a higher category package, you’ll get back 45,000 points plus the difference in package price between your package and the Category 1-5 package.
9. Can I use the 7 Night Certificate at SPG properties?
No, not yet. It seems likely that there will come a time when you can, but I can’t promise anything.
10. I want one of these! How do I earn enough Marriott points quickly?
Keep in mind that you can freely convert SPG points to Marriott points at a 1 to 3 ratio. So, 90,000 SPG points convert to 270,000 Marriott points. If you still need additional points quickly, the best option is to sign up for credit cards:
- Marriott Rewards Premier 90,500 points: Earn 80,000 points after $3,000 spend in 3 months, plus earn 7,500 points for adding an authorized user. After meeting spend requirements you’ll have at least 90,500 points.
- Marriott Rewards Premier Business 83,000 points: Earn 80,000 points after $3,000 spend in 3 months. After meeting spend requirements, you’ll have at least 83,000 points.
- Starwood Preferred Guest Credit Card 84,000 Marriott Rewards points: Earn 25,000 SPG points after $3,000 spend. Once done with spend you should have 28,000 SPG points which equal 84,000 Marriott Rewards points.
- Starwood Preferred Guest Business Credit Card 135,000 Marriott Rewards points: Earn 25,000 SPG points after $6,000 spend in the first 3 months and then an additional 10,000 SPG points after an additional $4,000 spend in the first 6 months. Once done with spend you should have 45,000 SPG points which equal 135,000 Marriott Rewards points. (Offer ends 11/1/17)
More options:
- Refer others. You may be able to earn additional points by referring others to these cards if you are a current cardholder.
- Friends can help by transferring points to you. Marriott allows members to transfer up to 50,000 points per year to others for a fixed $10 fee which is waived for Gold and Platinum members.
- Buy points. Marriott sells points for 1.25 cents each (limit 50,000 per year). SPG sells points for 3.5 cents each (1.17 cents per Marriott point) with a limit of 30,000 points (90,000 Marriott Rewards points). SPG points are often on sale cheaper, so keep an eye out for a good promotion.
- Transfer points from Chase Ultimate Rewards to Marriott 1 to 1. In general I don’t recommend this since you can get better value for those points, but it can make sense when topping off the points needed for a Marriott Travel Package.
- Transfer points from Amex Membership Rewards to SPG and then to Marriott. Amex transfers to SPG are usually 3 to 1, so that results in a 1 to 1 transfer to Marriott. Keep an eye out for a transfer bonus which would improve the transfer rate.
11. Can I combine points with my significant other to book this?
Yes. When you call Marriott Rewards to book the travel package, you can ask them to pull the points from both accounts.
12. Does it make sense to get a Travel Package even if I don’t want to stay at a Marriott hotel… ever?
Surprisingly… Yes. The packages in the top right of each Travel Package (except for packages 2 and 4) offer good value for the miles alone. Let’s take an example using my current Reasonable Redemption Values (RRVs). At this time, the RRV table shows Marriott points worth 0.68 cents each, and Southwest points worth 1.6 cents each. So, 270,000 Marriott points can be said to be worth 270,000 x $0.0068 = $1,836. If you redeem those 270,000 points for a 7 Night 120,000 Southwest point package, you would get 120,000 Southwest points worth 120,000 x $0.016 = $1920. In this example, even if you threw away the 7 night certificate, you would have slightly increased the value of your points. Plus, of course, if you do this before March 31st, you’ll get the Southwest Companion Pass as well!
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Can you still book fewer than 7 nights with the 7-night certificate? Is it doable online or do you have to call? Thanks.
Yes. You have to call
the ecertificate is good for 2 people in a room. I tried looking for award stay at marriott for paris but for 4 people there’s additional 200EU per night, for 2 people there’s no additional cost. is that usual? Is there a way around this?
Do what most people do, sneak in the extra two people in later after you’ve already checked in.
One option is to book for 2 people and then contact the hotel directly to ask if you can upgrade your stay to a room that can accommodate 4 people. They might have options other than the 200EU per night charge that you were quoted. For the record this is not a Marriott wide rule, but this is what happens when you try to book a hotel where the standard room type has max occupancy of 2 or 3. In Europe that’s very common. In the US it’s rare.
thank you for this!
just checking, for package 1 can I use the miles transferred to Alaska airlines for use in partner airlines like Korean air or something?
Once they hit your Alaska Airlines account they are Alaska miles. If you find award availability you can use them just like any other Alaska Miles
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I have some tips regarding extending your certificate for another year. First, watch your confirmation. They replaced my cat 7 cert with a cat 1-5, so I had to call back to get it corrected. Second, don’t call to extend until the last day. I was afraid of forgetting, so I did mine 3/5 even though it didn’t expire until 3/31. Well the extension now expires 1 year from 3/5 NOT 1 year from 3/31. So I lost 3 weeks. Just FYI
Thanks for the tips. Note that extending the certificate is not a one time thing. You should be able to do it again next year, so it won’t really matter that you triggered it early. Also you can reset the date by upgrading it to a category 6 certificate and then later downgrade it back to cat 5. With each change, the clock resets.
Greg i want know how obtain one 7 night stay for Marriott on ebay they sell them for $900 for cat 6. do you thing its wise way to do it.
No
If I transfer points from my wife’s account to book a vacation package will they count towards lifetime status points in my account? If so when will they count when I purchase the certificate with points, or when I redeem the certificate with the actual vacation stay?
Yes, they’ll add to your lifetime point status and subtract from hers. It should count when you purchase the certificate because they will have to move the points from her account to fund the purchase.
Greg thanks for the clarification. 1 follow up question is if I have enough points to cover the vacation package in my account, but want to use her points for the reservation as I understand it I can transfer more than 50,000 points once per year to cover the package under my account and not use any of my points.
Yes you can do that. If you want to avoid confusion, then move most of your points to your SPG account first.
What type of room do you get with a 7 night package? The best available, or only limited to standard rooms, no view etc. Thinking of going for cat. 9 hotel The Cosmopolitan in Vegas.
You get the same standard room you’d get if you booked a regular award night. Standard award nights are usually the lowest category of room. As an elite member, you could always be upgraded. However, I probably wouldn’t expect a big upgrade at a place like The Cosmopolitan. Flyertalk indicates that you might get a small upgrade if you’re a Marriott Platinum member. See this thread for datapoints:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marriott-ritz-carlton-rewards/1158298-las-vegas-cosmopolitan-hotel.html
Not sure if you may be able to pay something for an upgrade?
If we extend the expiration date of our 7 night certificate for another year…but then end up still not using it will we have the option to exchange for 45K points? Or is it a choice of extending expiration date OR taking the 45K points.
Yes, you can do that. The two are independent. Note though that the ability to exchange it for 45K points is not a published benefit. They could remove that option at any time. So, if you wait until Marriott and SPG merge into one program, it is possible it will then be too late.
I just tried to upgrade my Category 1-5 certificate to a Category 7 (I have the additional 60k points needed for the difference. Three different phone calls, three no’s.
Could I please get the Customer Support number to call, I’ve tried 800-450-4442, 800-721-7033, 800-321-7396.
Any help would be appreciated.
Make sure to speak with Marriott Rewards, not just Marriott overall. Try this number: 1-801-468-4000
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If you have a category 1-5 certificate but found availability for a category 6 hotel you want to stay, can you pay the difference in cash if you don’t have the points (30K)?
I’m not aware of a way to pay “cash” per se. You could buy the points though. You’ll be better off buying SPG points and converting them to Marriott. See this morning’s post:
https://frequentmiler.com/2018/02/02/buy-spg-points-35-off/
With the current discount, 10K Starpoints (which convert to 30K Marriott points) will cost you $227.50. That comes out to about $32.50 per night — probably not a bad deal for the upgrade.
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Can you transfer the airline miles to a friend’s airline account? If I wanted the stay and he needed the miles – is that possible?
I’ve heard that’s possible, but haven’t tried it. It’s worth asking a Marriott Rewards rep
Booked this package about 2 weeks ago. I asked to deposit miles into my wife’s airline account and I would take the free 7 nights certificate but the rep said it was not possible. Both miles and free nights certificate had to go to the same name.
which option would you recommend?
1. have 153k Marriott, will be getting 35k SPG bonus by next month. do the 270k with United. 132k + 58k in my united account + 20k transfer from spg. give me 2 Biz RT to Europe. the 7 nights cert doesnt appeal me.
2. skip the Marriott package. with 58k united + transfer 122k from UR for 2 Biz One way (120k) and 2 Economy. (60k) trying to save points for future use which is why i’m flying economy back. i just want to have an experience flying biz.
3. do option 2 but RT. 182k transfer from UR. yikes!
I’d do option 1, but I’m not sure how it adds up? 153K + 35K x 3 doesn’t quite get to the required 270K Marriott points