AA’s Loyalty Point Pursuit game: Earn status w/out flying

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Let the game begin!  As of January 1st, 2022, American Airlines has moved to a new way for members to earn elite status.  The old EQMs and EQDs are gone.  Now, we can earn elite status simply by earning lots of Loyalty Points.  The exciting thing about this is that Loyalty Points can be earned not just by flying but also through credit card spend, shopping portal rewards, SimplyMiles rewards, and more.  Ready to play?

Update: Please see our game cheat sheet here: How to earn American Airlines Loyalty Points without flying.

Why Pursue AA Loyalty Points?

Those who fly American Airlines a fair bit should be stoked by these changes.  For those willing to do a combination of flying and spend-related games, it should be easy to earn a higher level of status than ever before, or to get to top tier status more easily.  And once you have high level status, you’ll be eligible for more upgrades (even on Basic Economy tickets), free preferred seat selection, better point earnings on flights, etc.

Then there are people like me.  I don’t fly AA enough to care much about getting upgrades on AA.  I mean, I’d be thrilled to get upgraded if/when I fly AA, but I wouldn’t normally go out of my way to earn status for that potential benefit.  That said, there are some benefits that people like me who don’t normally fly AA might value:

  • OneWorld Elite Status: If you get AA’s Platinum Pro status or higher, you’ll qualify for OneWorld Emerald status.  This means that when flying a OneWorld carrier, you would get access to both first and business class lounges (except for AA’s own lounges if you earn OneWorld Emerald through AA), OneWorld first class check-in, priority boarding, extra free luggage.
  • Status Matches: When lucrative elite status matches are available, having high level AA elite status may be your key to getting a great match to an airline that you’ll fly more often.
  • Better Basic Economy on AA: Sometimes AA offers amazingly cheap Basic Economy prices.  With elite status, there’s less downside to booking these.  Yes, they’re still non-changeable and non-refundable, but those flights earn Loyalty Points and with elite status you can select your seat, check bags for free, and qualify for upgrades.
  • Elite Perks on Alaska and JetBlue: When flying JetBlue you can get priority check-in, security, and boarding; priority bag delivery; free checked bags; and a status mileage bonus.  When flying Alaska, you can get all of the above plus preferred seating, free same-day flight change, complementary Premium Class seats, complementary upgrades to first class (Platinum Pro and higher).

As attractive as the above benefits might be, my real motivation for wanting to earn AA elite status is that I want to play the game.  This is my warped idea of fun!  I’m betting that there will be many opportunities to stack shopping deals in order to earn AA miles and elite status extremely cheaply.  In fact, I already found some promising opportunities (as detailed in the examples later in this post).

The Game

The AA Loyalty Point Game can be played alone or with any number of friends.  Each player’s goal is to earn enough Loyalty Points to reach a meaningful level of elite status.  In 2022, we have 14 months to earn enough points (January 2022 through February 2023) but in future years we’ll have just 12 months (March through Feb).  This goal would be easy to achieve if cost was no object, but I’m adding a key restriction: the value of redeemable miles and Loyalty Points earned must outweigh fees and rewards not earned due to passing up more lucrative options.

How to Win

Before starting the game, decide which elite level you’re going for.  You win if you reach the targeted level before time is up (before March 1, 2023) and if you control costs appropriately.  Here are the target levels to choose from (personally I’m going for Platinum Pro):

  • Gold: 30,000 Loyalty Points
    Primary benefits: OneWorld Ruby, free upgrades on short flights (<= 500 miles), 40% mileage bonus, complimentary Main Cabin Extra Seats at check-in, complimentary Preferred Seats, 1 free checked bag.
  • Platinum: 75,000 Loyalty Points
    Primary benefits: OneWorld Sapphire, free upgrades on short flights (<= 500 miles), 48-hour upgrade window, 60% mileage bonus, Complimentary Main Cabin Extra and Preferred Seats, 2 free checked bags
  • Platinum Pro: 125,000 Loyalty Points
    Primary benefits: OneWorld Emerald, complimentary upgrades, 72-hour upgrade window, 80% mileage bonus, Complimentary Main Cabin Extra and Preferred Seats, 2 free checked bags, 1 Loyalty Choice Award (if you also complete 30+ AA flight segments).
  • Executive Platinum: 200,000 Loyalty Points
    Primary benefits: OneWorld Emerald, complimentary upgrades on American and Alaska Airlines, 100-hour upgrade window, 120% mileage bonus, Complimentary Main Cabin Extra and Preferred Seats, 3 free checked bags, 2 Loyalty Choice Awards (if you also complete 30+ AA flight segments).

Accounting for Costs

Most opportunities to earn Loyalty Points without flying require making purchases.  So, there are two types of purchases to account for:

  • Purchases you would have made anyway: Account for rewards not earned.  When buying things you would have bought anyway, the key is to account for the fact that you could have earned cash back (or other rewards) instead.  For example, if you pay with an AA card that earns 1 mile per dollar instead of a card that earns 2% cash back, then your cost is 2 cents per mile.  Similarly, if you shop through the AA eShopping portal to earn 3 points per dollar instead of a cash back portal that offers 9% cash back, then your cost is 3 cents per mile.
  • Purchases you make only for the Loyalty Points:  Sometimes there are deals that are so good that it’s worth paying for something even if you don’t want it.  For example, it’s not unusual for people to sign up for something like LifeLock just for the rewards (and then to cancel their subscription soon afterwards).  In those cases, you can simply account for your costs directly.  If you pay $100 and get 5,000 miles then your cost is $100/5000 = $0.02 (2 cents per mile).

How much should you pay for Loyalty Points and redeemable miles?  In many cases, the number of Loyalty Points and redeemable miles you earn will be the same.  For example, if shopping through the AA eShopping Portal for an offer that advertises 1,500 points, you should get both 1,500 Loyalty Points and 1,500 redeemable miles.  However, when the same portal also offers a special promotion for bonus miles (e.g. 300 bonus miles with $100 spend across all portal purchases), those will most likely only be redeemable miles.

LoyaltyMiles: When you earn both Loyalty Points and redeemable miles at the same rate (which is the norm), let’s call those LoyaltyMiles (I made that up).

How much are LoyaltyMiles worth to you?  Before playing this game, it’s important to decide how much LoyaltyMiles are worth to you.  One rough way to do this is to add together the amount you would pay per mile to buy AA redeemable miles plus the amount you would pay for Loyalty Points (if you could buy them).  For example, maybe you know that you can always get significantly more than 1 cent per point value from your AA miles, so you would pay 1 cent per mile to buy redeemable miles.  Plus, lets say your target elite status is Executive Platinum (requiring 200K Loyalty Points) and you would be willing to buy that level of status for $1,000 (a made-up number).  In that case, you would be willing to pay $1,000 / 200K = half a cent per Loyalty Point.  Taken together, LoyaltyMiles then are worth 1.5 cents each to you.  In other words, you would be fine with paying 1.5 cents per LoyaltyMile earned.

In my case, since AA status isn’t very meaningful to me and since I already have over a million AA miles, I’ll pay no more than half a cent per Loyalty Point and half a cent per redeemable mile.  In other words, I don’t want to pay more than 1 cent per LoyaltyMile.  This means that, unless an AA credit card is offering a big promotion, I shouldn’t ever put spend on an AA card.  With my Bank of America Premium Rewards card I earn 2.62% cash back on all spend and so using an AA credit card that earns only 1 LoyaltyMile per dollar is like paying 2.62 cents per LoyaltyMile (because I could have earned 2.62% cash back instead of earning 1 LoyaltyMile).  That’s way above my budget of 1 cent per LoyaltyMile.

Tools for Earning Loyalty Points

As we reported separately, the following non-flight activities earn Loyalty Points:

One Mile at a Time reports that the following DO NOT earn Loyalty points:

  • Buying, gifting, or transferring miles
  • Government taxes, fees, and other charges associated with buying airline tickets
  • Conversion of another program currency to AAdvantage miles
  • AAdvantage credit card welcome bonuses don’t qualify, and neither do accelerators such as extra miles for category bonuses
  • Miles earned with Bask Bank

Getting Started

  1. Choose an elite level target (e.g. Exec Platinum for 200,000 points, Platinum Pro for 125,000 points, Platinum for 75,000 points, or Gold for 30,000 points)
  2. Decide how much you’re willing to “pay” (see Accounting for Costs, above) for LoyaltyMiles (Loyalty Points + Redeemable miles).  As a very rough rule of thumb I’d suggest the following:
    • 1 cent per LoyaltyMile: You’re just doing this for fun and don’t really care that much about earning elite status or AA miles
    • 1.5 cents per LoyaltyMile: You value AA miles more than 1 cent each and you do expect to get good value out of AA elite status.
    • 2 cents per LoyaltyMile: You value AA miles AND you very highly value AA elite status.  You plan to earn Platinum Pro or Executive Platinum status.  And, you expect to fly 30 or more AA segments per year so that you’ll also earn Choice Rewards Benefits (such as Systemwide Upgrades).
  3. Look for deals and stacking opportunities among the tools for earning loyalty points.  For example, in some cases merchants available through AAdvantage eShopping are also available through SimplyMiles, and in most cases those offers will stack together to earn many more LoyaltyMiles per purchase.

Update: Please see our game cheat sheet here: How to earn American Airlines Loyalty Points without flying.

Examples

A couple of days ago I searched for examples of deal stacking opportunities that would let me buy LoyaltyMiles for less than 1 cent each.  Here are a couple of deals I found…

Byte (Earn miles and a profit — maybe)

Byte sells teeth straightening kits. You start by buying an Impression Kit and then can sign up for a much more expensive program for straitening your teeth.  Byte got my attention initially through SimplyMiles where I had an offer on my account for 4,650 miles on a purchase of $100 or more:

There was also an offer to get 2,500 miles through the eShopping portal.  This should stack with the SimplyMiles offer:

What really sealed the deal for me, though, was that I found the same merchant on Citi Merchant Offers for my Citi Double Cash card.  I don’t yet know if the SimplyMiles offer and the Citi Merchant Offer will stack together (both are card-linked offers where the payout is triggered by charges appearing on the card), but both are so good that the deal would be worth pursuing if either one pays out on a $100 purchase.

I enrolled my Double Cash card in the offer both within SimplyMiles and Citi Merchant Offers and then went to click through from the AA portal.  First, though, I checked CashBackMonitor to see if there was a better portal offer than AA’s 2,500 miles.  Sure enough, TopCashBack was offering $45 back:

Since the portal choice is between earning $45 or 2,500 miles, it would cost me $45/2500 = 1.8 cents per LoyaltyMile to use the AA portal.  That’s way above my 1 cent per point threshold so I went with TopCashBack.

After clicking through the portal to Byte, I was confronted with a problem.  I couldn’t immediately find a way to spend $100 (which is necessary for triggering the card-linked offers).  The impression kit was on sale for only $14.95 and that seemed like the only option for an initial purchase:

Since $14.95 wouldn’t be enough to trigger the card-linked offers from SimplyMiles or Citi, I added the Impression Kit to my cart and then removed the discount code at check out.  This increased the price to $95.  After Michigan sales tax was applied, the total price came to $100.70.  Perfect!  Do note, though, that the card linked offer terms state “Offer excludes taxes.”  That said, the card-linked programs can’t usually tell the difference between the primary purchase and the sales tax portion and so it is likely to work anyway.

If everything pays out, then I should earn the following on my $100.70 in spend:

  • $145 cash back ($100 from Citi Merchant Offers and $45 from TopCashBack)
  • $2.01 back from my Citi Double Cash card.
  • 4,650 AA miles from SimplyMiles
  • Overall, I’ll earn a small profit (about $46) and I’ll be 4,650 / 125K = 4% of the way to Platinum Pro status!

So far, TopCashBack has reported that the purchase has tracked, but it is too soon to hear from the card-linked programs.

TopCashBack shows the $45 pending

What if Citi Merchant Offers and AA SimplyMiles don’t stack?

  • I should earn $45 from TopCashBack regardless, so my net cost would be $55.70
  • If I earn 4,650 AA miles, but not the $100 from Citi, then that’s like buying miles for $55.70 / 4,650 = 1.2 cents each.  That’s more than I wanted to spend, but not horrible.
  • If I earn the $100 from Citi, but not the 4,650 AA miles, then I’ll have earned a small profit, but no AA miles.

As I write this, my Citi Double Cash card shows the $100.70 purchase pending.  Until it moves to an actual charge, the card-linked offers won’t be triggered.  Even then, I might not know immediately if they both worked.  I’ll update this post once I learn either way.

Example: Spot & Tango (buy miles very cheaply)

Spot & Tango is a meal delivery subscription service for dogs.  I saw this first on the AA eShopping portal where they were offering 2,500 miles for a purchase.  I then also found Spot & Tango on SimplyMiles where they offered 930 miles, and on Citi Merchant Offers where they offered $20 back.  Each of the latter two offers required a purchase of $25 or more.

After determining that the AA eShopping portal really was the best deal, I clicked through from there and ran into a problem: It was hard to find a subscription plan where the first purchase cost less than $55.  Finally, I stumbled upon the solution: I changed my fictional dog’s weight down to 10 pounds.  I played around with different options until I found an order that came to $24.25.  After Michigan sales tax, the total came to $25.71.

Another problem I faced is that this order required signing up for recurring dogfood deliveries that I didn’t want.  So, immediately after placing the order, I went into my account and changed the next delivery to be 3 months away.  That will give me plenty of time to cancel the subscription after the rebates post.  I also set a reminder to myself for a couple of weeks from now to cancel the subscription.

So far (updated 1/6/22), all of the “stacks” have posted!

  • The AA eShopping portal tracked the purchase and shows 2,500 miles pending (I have no idea why it thinks the eligible amount was only $15.16, but the portal didn’t have a minimum spend requirement so that should be OK).
  • SimplyMiles tracked the purchase and shows 930 miles pending.
  • Citibank Merchant Offers tracked the purchase and shows $20 pending.

Assuming each of the pending rewards go through and pay out, then I should earn the following from my $25.71 in spend:

  • $20 cash back from Citi Merchant Offers
  • 51 cents back from my Citi Double Cash card
  • 3,430 AA miles (2,500 miles from the AA eShopping Portal + 930 from SimplyMiles)
  • Overall, my cost will be $5.20 / 3430 = 0.15 cents per LoyaltyMile.  That’s excellent!

Update 1/10/22: All 3,430 AA miles have posted to my AA account.  All are shown as “base miles”. I take that as confirmation that they will count as Loyalty Points.

Fulton Fish Market

This is a deal that I decided not to pursue, but it might be of interest to those who want to sign up for fish delivery.  Through SimplyMiles, I found a two similar offers for Fulton Fish, each offering 1,500 miles on a purchase of $100 or more.  I was able to activate both offers, so would I get 3,000 miles on a $100 purchase if I met the terms of each?  I don’t know.  I also found $30 back on a purchase of $100 or more through Citi Merchant Offers.  So, if it is possible to make a $100 purchase, the following might be possible:

  • Get $30 back from Citi Merchant Offers (net cost: $100 – $30 = $70)
  • Earn either 1,500 or 3,000 miles from SimplyMiles
  • LoyaltyMile price either:
    • $70 / 1500 = 4.7 cents per LoyaltyMile
    • $70 / 3000 = 2.33 cents per LoyaltyMile

Even if it all works, 2.33 cents is more than I’m willing to pay per LoyaltyMile.  You can do a little better by starting with a portal, but I didn’t see any amazing portal rates so they wouldn’t make a huge difference.  Overall, this deal is only worthwhile if you want to order fish anyway.

Warning

Play this game only if you are comfortable with the risks…

Things can and will go wrong.  Some purchases may not track correctly.  Assumptions about what deals will stack may be wrong.  You might forget to use a credit card linked to SimplyMiles (for example) when making a purchase.  You may forget to cancel an ongoing subscription and therefore pay way more for your miles than intended.

What works? What doesn’t?

This section will be updated regularly based on my own experiment results and info from readers…

What works (confirmed)

  • Two similar SimplyMiles offers.  Sometimes you’ll see multiple offers on SimplyMiles for the same merchant but with slightly different terms.  If you can meet the terms of both offers with one purchase, you’ll get both bonuses.  People have reported success with this with Best Buy.

What works (pending)

The following appear to work based on pending payouts. I’ll update once they move from pending to actual payouts:

  • Stack SimplyMiles card linked offer with Citi Merchant Offers for same merchant.
  • Stack AA eShopping portal with SimplyMiles (and with Citi Merchant Offers).
  • Meet SimplyMiles spend requirement with sales tax even if terms say no to taxes.  Tested successfully with the following merchants: Spot & Tango

What doesn’t work

This section will be filled in once we have relevant datapoints.

Play Along

If you’re interested in playing the game described above, please do the following:

  • Subscribe to the comments of this post.  That way, you’ll receive an email when people report useful information.
  • Search for your own deals!
  • In the comments below, report any great deals you’ve found
  • In the comments below, report your success (or lack of success) in stacking deals.  In the future, I intend to add a section to this post with info about which deals stack and which do not, as well as when terms like “excludes taxes” are enforced and when they are not.

Who’s ready to play?

Update: Please see our game cheat sheet here: How to earn American Airlines Loyalty Points without flying.

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bobo

how could I see the comments?

Vince

has anyone had Citi offers disappear/be removed? My Spot/Tango is no where to be found, and I am 99.99% sure of enrolling…noticed while on chat today w Citi Rep to check status

On a hopefully confident note, I have chat documentation that I met criteria for Byte, and the credit will show in “1-2 billing cycles”

Nun

I thought the same happened to me. However in the Citi app go to link near the top which says view redeemed offers. Mine was there but missing from the normal list.

JakePB

So the Naked Wines thing is concerning, and Elizabeth & M.A. thank you for posting and sorry to read about your points misfortune. Has anyone else run into a clawback on the Naked opportunity? Just signed up last night, using Vince’s methodology suggested nearly 2 wks ago. Used my Amex, but I’m certain the $40 back there won’t jam me up…impossible for AA’s shopping portal to have visibility into that separate rebate.

C H
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JakePB

Thank you for the additional DPs, CH.

Spike

Not sure if this helps anyone but I made a wine order and signed up as an angel then called to delay my order… After the first angel charge I’ll cancel the wine order and see what happens

jim

I did not try the offer but noted the following – which is probably driving their tracking – the Amex offer says you have to go through nakedwines.com/amex – that generated some code on the next screen. Similar thing happens with aa Shopping – but a different code. Likely, that is how they trace with the ability to claw back

Vince

Clawback protection (?): If you take your current miles prior to clawbacks, book an award flight (any flight that you intend to cancel down the road) to essentially use up your miles (make your balance zero), can they do a clawback on a zero balance? Your AA account can’t show “-3700 miles”, can it? Then 6 months from now when you need to make a real booking, cancel this ‘fake’ booking, recoup and use the miles.

Spike

I wouldn’t count on that. Your mileage balance can definitely go negative, speaking from personal experience (due to credit card returns after redeeming points bringing me close to zero)

Alex H

just to be a data point I have not had Naked Wines clawed back (yet). Will update if that changes. I did not use the AmEx offer but as others have mentioned that would not have caused the change on the AA side. Maybe there is a difference on whether you bought the more expensive package that qualified for the AmEx offer or something else (I forget exactly what I did as it was two weeks ago but the total was around $40).

Sharon

My Naked Wines posted on 1/9 and also hasn’t been clawed back. I didn’t use the Amex offer (which requires subscription), and just order 6 bottles of wine (at more expensive price of course) totaling $100+

Josh

for the ppl who got clawed back and used the amex offer, did you go to nakedwines.com/amex or just click thru the portal?

I didn’t go to the /amex site, i just clicked thru the portal. we’ll see if they claw mine back or not.

I made two orders for 2 different ppl at $40 thru the portal to get the amex offer to trigger.

C H

As suggested above, my clawback (so far still only shown on the aadvantageeshopping portal and not removed from my AA account yet) may indeed have been caused the use of the amex offer with the link in that offer, following this method suggested in an earlier post:

“click through the Amex offer first you can load a 12 bottle special (with the embedded Amex code) for 79.99 into your cart, close it and then click through the AA portal”

https://frequentmiler.com/aas-loyalty-point-pursuit-game-earn-status-w-out-flying/comment-page-1/#comment-2333243

Elizabeth

My Naked Wines got clawed back too. Had just gone in and put the $40 angel deposit down after the fact in hopes it would save it. . Frustrating losing a 3700 point opportunity . I have lost out on some high point earners I can’t figure out how to do over- thrive market, just for dogs and naked wines. I don’t drink so naked wines pretty well filled my cooking wine supply for a while. Think I will slow down and see what works and what gets clawed back. At 26000 now.

elk

I’m hesitate to do thrive and just for dogs. I’m at 26000 myself but naked wines never posted for me even though I kept the angel $40.

Alex

Why did your naked wines get clawed back? I did the stack with Amex. No subscription though. Just like 6 wines

Nun

Alex, Did you receive miles for your nonsubscription purchase? The portal button says “subscribe now” and the terms say “ By redeeming this offer, you agree to make a $40 monthly contribution to your Naked Wines account (charged until you cancel) that you can use to buy wine. ”.

Hombre

Here is what I did. I signed up via the portal link. I did not buy anything. I went to my profile and set up an $80 angel contribution. I moved the date forward to the 24th (tomorrow). I used Amex. This should seed the account (meet obligation of the portal) and by doing $80 meets AMEX process (ends in 6 days). lets see if it works.

Spike

FYI per their phone reps, the angel charge gets charged in the second month. Ie if your set it to charge tomorrow, the first angel charge will actually occur on Feb 24

Hombre

So there is no real way to get the current AMEX spend value as it ends in 6 days.

Larry K

Oops — ignore my previous comment. My naked wines got clawed back too. I did commit to the $40 but also used the Amex offer.

Also my simply miles for Fulton Fish have not posted though I did get the citi merchant offer for it.

Nun

I don’t understand on what grounds they clawed back your 3700 if you paid for the subscription and also deposited $40. If I really like Naked Wines what do they want before they let you keep the miles?

M.A.

Woke up this morning and checked Eshopping to find that my 3700 miles for the Naked Wines offer was clawed back. I reckon this could be due to either of two reasons.

1) The terms state that you have to commit to paying $40 (refundable) into their angel program, but I cancelled the service before I ever did that. Since the terms just state that you have to commit to it, not that you actually have to do it, I feel good about my argument that I should get the points if this is the reason they give for the clawback.

2) They also state in the terms “Not eligible on purchases made with coupon or discount codes that are not found on this site.” I made this purchase on an AmEx card that had a $40 off of $80 AmEx offer on it, so if this is the reason they give then this one might be a strikeout for me, unfortunately.

Larry K

Did they pull them back from AA or just from the pending in the simply miles site?

Joe Y

They pulled them back from my AA account, too.

Alex

Has anyone got Just for Dogs? Going to complain to SM as soon as it’s eligible

Vince

Nada

Alex H

Still nothing on this. I sent something to Simply Miles about this and have received no response.

Elizabeth

I am confused about the offers on the aa shopping portal. There is the main offer like 3700 points for sunbasket. Then on the page where you click through to the company’s site (blue button) there are additional offers . If I click on one of the other offers (gray) does that exclude me from the loyalty mikes offer?

Josh

Nope because on the mileage T & C to the left it only precludes “any offers not found on that (AA portal) page.” You’ll be fine using any of those offers.

Nun

I’m still waiting for Sunbasket to track at aa eshopping more than a week later. Received my meals today. I only see it as a visit

Vince

BYTE-Simply Miles: any data points of the Simply Miles posting? I tried to review all comments and I see ZERO so far. There are positive data points on the AA shopping portal bonus of 2500 however.
I have submitted transaction queries with SM x 2. No response.
Anyone get the Simply Miles? Or are they still licking their wounds from Conservation International?

HoKo

If nothing else this situation could be an interesting case-study for how to handle things when things go sideways.

One option would be to file a chargeback with your bank…but it’s questionable if you’d be in the right to do that. Byte could argue you ordered a widget, they sent you said widget, therefore they’ve satisfied their obligations.

Sexy_kitten7

Generally I try to reach out to all parties: portal, airline, and merchant. If that doesn’t work, then you can chargeback. After all, the purchase was for the widget+miles. I typically take the merchant to arbitration instead of just charging back (benefit of the bargain and all that) but that’s probably too hardcore for most on here. My hope is that by litigating a few cases, these merchants will think twice before screwing more people over. The main issue with chargebacks is the reversal window: 60 days I believe. https://www.reddit.com/r/churning/comments/in9m7b/guide_to_arbitration/

Troy

I’m leaning towards using return protection on the CC, since Byte won’t take a return on a bite kit I imagine.

Jim

Curious why Citi did not honor the deal?

Carl

Has anybody been successful with the ClubFeast offer on SM? I have not tried it yet and was hoping for any pointers/guidance so I don’t mess it up. The offer states new users only, but up to five times so not sure how those don’t cancel each other out. Thanks in advance

Larry K

I want to use it but it only delivers to NYC and San Francisco Bay Area so not sure how to do.

Josh

I just eclipsed 30,000 points too.

Simplymiles Target 465
Citi AA Bus CC spend 315
Simplymiles Spot and Tango 930
AA Shopping Portal Spot and Tango 2500
AA Dining 350 (+1000 non-loyalty counting bonus miles for signing up)
AA Flight 2130 (wait flights, ppl take those?)
AA Shopping Portal Babylist 1000
AA Shopping Portal Sunbasket 3700
AA Shopping Portal Winc Wines 1500
AA Shopping Portal Naked Wines 3700
AA Shopping Portal Bed Bath and Beyond 880 (buying things we needed anyway)
AA Shopping Portal Chewy 172
Simplymiles Winc Wines 1000
AA Shopping Portal Verizon 6200
AA Shopping Portal Blooom 1200
AA Opinions 290 (+250 non-loyalty counting bonus miles for signing up)
AA Shopping Portal Naked Wines 3700 (signed my p2 up)

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N B

The Blooom offer, do we have to buy one of their plans or just a simple sign up?

Rjnutter

I only connected one retirement account for their “free analysis” and I got my points.

Josh

only connected one of my retirement accounts

Daniel

Does bookaahotels miles count as loyalty points? I have an upcoming stay in Orlando and I can earn 10,000 miles by booking through them. I’m also going for hyatt status so I would lose out on staying at a hyatt instead. With the AA/Hyatt partnership can I book through aahotels at a hyatt and still get an elite night plus the points for booking?

Steven

It’s still unconfirmed and up in the air if the bonus points will count as loyalty points. Although you will definitely get the 1 lotaly point per dollar spent.

Daniel

Interesting, the only spot that looks like there may be bonus miles is if you pay a little higher price for “Special offer: More miles” but the regular purchase just says “Earn X,000 miles”. Thanks for the thought though, if they don’t earn loyalty points, it for sure would not be worth it for me.

Josh

Correct. The base miles for the booking will count but not any “Special offer: More miles” options that would be selected. Once you purchase and receive the email confirmation, it will show the base miles and bonus “purchased” miles on separate lines.

Nun

FT post says everything posted as base miles including ones from the “pay more to get more” option.

Connie

You will be able to tell after the purchase on the AA app:
Open app
Click on your name
Click wallet
Click award miles
Click on the specific entry
It will tell you if it was base miles or bonus miles

Larry K

Anyone else getting nickle and dimed by AA Eshopping? I had an offer for 1,000 bonus points for $300 spend. A few of the purchases tracked completely wrong. I know sometimes certain items don’t count and shipping and tax do not earn miles or count toward spend bonuses, but I’m talking about single items not posting for the value of the item and being off by random amounts, well before tax and shipping. Including one purchase that didn’t track at all, I had to spend over $380 just to get credit for spending $300 to get the bonus.

Alex H

My Verizon purchase is showing up as $0 so that is enough to keep me under $300. But at least the points posted.

Larry K

Yep, that happened to me too. This was just a straight purchase of a computer monitor where the price that was credited on AA eshopping is randomly like $24.xx less than the price of the monitor.

Lord Dima

Winc DP (posted on the separate Winc post as well): Signed up for Winc back in December for AmEx offer and got the wines. Suspended subscription, then cancelled it online a couple days ago. Next day signed up using this AAshopping deal – same name, address, different email, phone, credit card. Order shipped and miles are already showing as pending in AAshopping.

Andrea

How long did it take for Winc to track? My purchase arrives today, but the AA portal still has my visit blank instead of showing order details. Did you notice yours was blank for a few days or did the order details show up immediately?

Lord Dima

It was within a day or two. Order details were not blank but showed wrong amount (29.95 and not including tax)

Josh

Anyone get MarketWatch or Barron’s to track in the portal?

Josh

Yup. Barron’s pretty quickly.

Josh

Thanks other Josh 🙂

Dang – neither of mine with marketwatch and barron’s credited. Really good luck with everything else though.

Wj Z

Did you get the $2 per month and keep for 2 months? Can’t find the $1 for 8 weeks offer.

justmeha

got MarketWatch, pretty fast as a matter of fact.

Steven

2 days waiting on MarketWatch now

Josh

Signed up for MarketWatch yesterday, miles tracked in already the next day. Barron’s was only two days also.

Nun

Barrons, MarketWatch, WSJ have all been 1500 miles in the past. (History available at cashbackmonitor)

N B

For Marketwatch, do you think that 9.99 will be charged, even if we cancel the membership, the terms and condition sounds doggy

*Your credit card will be charged $1.00 + tax for the first 4 weeks , $9.99 + tax per month for the next 12 months then $19.99 monthly thereafter. You may cancel your subscription at any time. All fees and charges are non-refundable. You will be notified via email of any price increases. For questions about your subscription or to discontinue, please call Customer Service at 1-888-485-2378 or click here. By checking this box, you agree to these terms.

Misty

Anyone else try Miles for Opinions here? I signed up just to get the initial 1000 points, and took one survey, back in November. The points show as earned in the Miles account, but they never transferred automatically to my AA account.

I emailed Miles about a week and a half ago, and they’re supposedly escalating the issue elsewhere because they can’t seem to figure out what’s going on. What a hassle.

Gary

have been doing it for a while and the miles automatically go into my AA account. since I found out that these count as Loyalty Points, I’ve picked up the survey pace. Over 2,000 for January so far

Nun

FYI, miles earned from surveys count as loyalty points but not the enrollment bonus. That posts in the bonus column. (I think mine was 250 not 1000.)

Alex

Anyone have Winc post for SM? Still nothing.

Also — how long do CMO take to post? Got Spot & Tango, but still nothing for Byte, Uber or Winc.

Lastly, we all just giving up on the 1200 Just for Dogs? That has still yet to him my AA Portal…

Free Fam Travel (Michelle)

Yes for SM, but no for the AA shopping portal. I purchased on 1/11 and they posted to SM two days ago.

Alex

Ok maybe just takes a while

Lord Dima

I’m the opposite. AAshopping posted two days later but SM hasn’t posted yet.

Steven

I keep losing the green checkmark in the plugin when clicking “Join Verizon” on the prepaid page. Will I still get the bonus?

Josh

i did

Spike

How long did it take? I did a few yesterday and still no confirmation email from eshopping despite the orders having already shipped

Chris

This is my third day waiting. Other deals I have used since the Verizon one have posted. Verizon even shows up in my history with order information….but no bonuses yet.

Ally

Looking for DPs on Thrive. Did you only get points on the membership fee or on the purchase as well? Wording makes it sound like it’s only on membership but it’s up to 20 points per dollar currently so ordering some groceries would be worth the $10 monthly membership fee if both.

Connie

I bought the membership and groceries at the same time But it only tracked for the cost of the membership.

Ally

Boo! Thanks for letting me know though!

Sharon

Wow thanks for the DP. Then probably not worthwhile as I was only planning on paying the monthly membership to take advantage of the Amex offer. Probably will pass on this.

Josh

Blue Apron could interest some.

1000 from aa portal (i’m waiting for this to increase, sometimes goes to 2000/2500) – could also get $50 from Swagbucks here instead right now
1200 simplymiles for spending $50(exp 2/28/22)
$25 off $50 Citi offer (exp 2/28/22)

Also $25 off $50 amex offer, but then no simply miles stack (exp 1/31/22)
Blue Apron could interest some.

1000 from aa portal (i’m waiting for this to increase, sometimes goes to 2000/2500)
1200 simplymiles for spending $50(exp 2/28/22)
$25 off $50 Citi offer (exp 2/28/22)

Also $25 off $50 amex offer, but then no simply miles stack (exp 1/31/22)

Even if you just do the simplymiles 1200 + swagbucks + citi offer, it would be a moneymaker and get you 1200 miles.

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Elizabeth

why no simply miles stack if using amex offer?

Alex H

You need a linked Mastercard for simply miles so can’t pay with AmEx.

M.A.

Like several others here, when trying to cash in on the Verizon SIM card offer, I ran into the issue that repeat orders gave me payment system errors. I gave up and went to bed. When I woke up in the morning, I had a dozen pending transactions from the previous day for $36.85 (the price of the cheapest line) pending on the card I was using to pay. I figured that was all normal and that they would fall off, however then a new one from this morning popped up for $43.66 and I received an email telling me that I had been given a $6.99 credit. Clearly something was up.

I called in to Verizon and went through my order history with the representative. It turns out, all of my orders had been authorized and then immediately cancelled within 10 seconds of authorization- even my initial order that seemed to go off without a hitch. Evidently, their website was coming up with the wrong taxes for my order. The proper order amount would be $36.67, but it was authorizing my card for $36.85. This incongruity was making their system automatically cancel my order. The $43.66 charge I received this morning was the result of a Verizon employee logging in and manually submitting a SIM card for me (with the correct price of $36.67), then adding the $6.99 fee for shipping and a separate $6.99 credit. I told them to cancel that order (it now had a new order number and doubtless would not track on the portal) and they started the refund process.

Seeing as the offer is still going, I may try and order a few SIM cards to my parents’ house and hope the proper tax is charged for the order. EDIT: Nope, that didn’t work either. Unfortunately, it looks like I’ll have to sit this deal out and hope it comes around again later and actually works then.

Jim Livesay

I’m glad you wrote this–I have spent way too much time today trying to get this to go through. In what I assume is the same issue you had, my payment did not go through, I tried again, once again it didn’t go through. Now two charges are pending on my card. This one isn’t worth any more of my time I wouldn’t think. Too bad–6,200 miles was looking juicy.

Nun

When you tried again with your parents’ address, did you use a different email and payment from the first case? Or does that have nothing to do with it, and it’s just a tax calculation error causing all this?

M.A.

I used the same email, but tried paying with Paypal. The address you enter on the website says Billing/Shipping and there’s no way to separate the two, so I put in the shipping address, carried on with the checkout process, and the selected Paypal to pay for the cards because Paypal has billing address linked to the cards, not the website info. No dice.

Alex H

Has anyone had issues with Just Food for Dogs tracking on the AA portal? I bought some treat bag for around $6 and it hasn’t posted. The T&Cs don’t seem to indicate you need a particular subscription or anything.

Larry K

Same. My pumpkin treats did not post.

Alex

Mine also did not post

Vince

same from 1/10

Josh

Mine tracked fine over this weekend posting yesterday.

Carl

What did you purchase?

Josh

Actually, I lied. The miles haven’t posted yet; however, on their website my order still shows as “In Process.” I’m hoping once its shipped the miles will post. I ordered a $10 bag of salmon bark cat treats..lol.

Josh

Same here but just ordered on 1/16. My order still shows as “In Process” on their website, so I’m hoping once it’s finalized/shipped it’ll transfer the miles. Either way, $10 for salmon bark cat treats isn’t a huge loss.

Lord Dima

Ordered on 1/14, shipped couple days ago, arriving tomorrow, still not showing any tracking in AAshopping

SpaceX

Anyone have a datapoint on if Citi Merchant Offers track when you use a virtual number?

Troy

FYI, no Gold status yet with over 30k posted to AAdvantage. Looks like March 1st or after, unfortunately.

elk

Thanks for the info. If you don’t mind sharing what offers did you do too get 30k.

v m

he already did.

elk

Sorry it’s difficult to search through the comments. I’ve been trying to keep up.

Neil

On shopping portal
Naked wine
byte
Motley Fool
Baby list
WSJ
MarketWatch
Verizon
1800Contacts at 5x (I happened to need them)

On SimplyMiles
Barnes and Noble
BP gasoline

elk

Thanks for the input.

Josh

$20 amex offer at contactsdirect (and 7x on the portal!)

Justmeha

Did byte post?

Josh

Byte from AA posted for me within 3 days. Waiting to see if Simply Miles and the Citi merchant offer ($100 back) posts..

Kathy

Can you earn the BPme miles multiple times or only once?

Connie

So if you are doing the Verizon prepaid deal, when you get to the payment screen do you pay with a credit card or purchase a Verizon wireless prepaid refill card?

Josh

pay with cc (if trying to use your amex offer / chase offer)

Josh

Just to clarify, the 40% status boost for earning Gold **only** applies to flights taken, and not miles/LP’s earned thru shopping portals,etc. right?

Christian

Unfortunately correct.

Free Fam Travel (Michelle)

The wine offers just keep coming, LOL. Not sure if this one was posted here yet – sorry for any duplication. Wine.com is in Simply Miles for 1500 points on $100 spend, AA shopping portal for 2pts/$ and a couple of offer codes (I used 10% off 6 bottles) and a bunch of the credit card offers (my AmEx platinum has $10 off $50, Citi Thank you offers shows $30 off $100). Cheers!

J P

Easy 1,200 miles for free with Blooom through AA shopping portal. I created an account and added one of my retirement accounts. I never even put in my credit card info anywhere so can’t be charged. Miles have posted to my AA account.

Alex H

This also just posted for me. No credit card required.

elk

Me as well.

Larry K

Fulton Fish: one time purchase under $100 but over with shipping worked for citi merchant offers and simply miles. I had two offers in simply miles but this only earned points for the purchase one not subscription.

Lord Dima

I think we are still waiting for data points on whether subscription would trigger both offers.

Josh

Update re: the hit-or-miss that is Byte. I ran a separate transaction through AA’s portal (2500 miles for the impression kit) separately. Using the discount that automatically applied ($15 impression kit total), the 2500 miles through the portal tracking within two days.

What remains to be seen is whether the separate order ($105 worth of whitening accessories) placed with Simply Miles (4650 miles) and $100 cask back Citi MO – both on orders over $100 will track.

Troy

Clear membership has tentatively tracked thru the portal while doing the United Travelbank deal outlined on DoC. I say tentatively as it just shows the unique order ID & amount under “recent store visits.” I’ll update if/when it posts to Recent Transactions and AAdvantage.
For my transactions I: clicked thru the AA portal to Clear, clicked Get Clear, then pasted the United Travel Bank url into the same Chrome tab. From there I proceeded to sign up as usual, paid with Amex Plat so it’s fully reimbursed. Did this for P1 then P2 used a Biz Plat with two family members ($109 + $60).
If all tracks should be:
700 (350+350) AA LoyaltyMiles
$200 ($100+$100) UA travel bank
1 year of Clear for 3 people (you could do 4 if you wanted)
Free after Amex reimbursements

…accidentally posted this in the VZW thread, but here it is

Nick Reyes

Any update on this stack?

Nick Reyes

Realized I should have been more detailed: @Troy, any update on the CLEAR stack with United TB and AA?

Troy

Hi there, the 350 miles posted to AAdvantage already for one order and counted as $109 spending toward the 500/1000 mile bonus also. 2nd order didn’t post despite showing full order details in the portal. UA travel bank hasn’t posted for anyone just yet, terms say up to 10 weeks I believe.

Troy

I think I noted this elsewhere in this post, but I have gotten the NakedWines offer to pay out twice now (November & January), using different players but same AA Portal/AAdvantage account.
I would like to know if it would work under same player name on offers that don’t specify a first purchase/subscription. For example, can I do 10 separate Verizon orders under my name and get credited 10 times? If anyone has done a couple offers under same name please provide a data point.

Josh

Interesting. The mileage terms state “only eligible on first purchase.” However, as you note, it doesn’t include language about only one bonus per AA account, so that’s brilliant. As long as you create separate accounts/emails with NW, it should work.

elk

For some reason mine hasn’t posted and I did it with the AMEX offer on Saturday. I think I need to contact AA and see what’s going on.

Lord Dima

AA would certainly not have a clue about any of this 😉

Josh

Out of curiosity, have you tried the same with Winc? Citi has a $20 cash back offer now for Winc ($30 purchase), and Winc terms on AA portal don’t spec one bonus per frequent flyer account (only new subscription). Wonder if I used a new email address to do so?

Josh

Oops did the WSJ Wine Amex Offer expire? I don’t see it in my account anymore

Troy

Yep

Bonnie

I have extensions on my computer for most of my shopping portals. If we click through AA shopping portal and then click on the other shopping portal that pops up (ie. rebateme, Topcash, Rakuten), does it then negate the points coming from AA or SM? Appreciate dp’s.

Troy

Yes. It is best to use a clean browser just for buying things. No buttons installed, no ad block installed, etc. I use Chrome for this and nothing else, just buying. For some reason Google’s browser always seems to have the most reliable ad click tracking for me.

Josh

potentially…i have ebates installed too and haven’t had any issues. but yeah probably best to disable if you can.

Matt

Did anyone notice that the Hungryroot offer on simplymiles got taken down? I activated it a few days ago and made a purchase same day (for a shipment later this week) but it’s not showing on my simplymiles account anymore. I sent a note to customer service to make sure I get those miles, but not holding my breath on getting it since purchase hasn’t posted (just pending)

Beth B

Mine is still showing up on SimplyMiles. I placed an order but made the shipment arrival date be next week, so I expect it to post before the end of the month to get the points.

Matt

Thanks for the dp. I guess something is just funky on my end. Will continue to monitor

elk

For Verizon – anyone able to do a prepay of an existing account? The offer shows that would work but the terms say new lines and customers only. I see it went up to 6200 miles now.

Holly

3200 miles for Lexington Law Credit Repair in the shopping portal. Does anyone happen to know their pricing? You have to give them your info find out. I don’t need credit repair but maybe worth it for 3200 miles…

JakePB

I’m in! 12 days late.

Daniel

Has anyone tried to order anything from ProLon, I was going to order a $27 box of fastbars for the 2k points, but when I click order and go to fastbar, it takes me to a fastbar webpage. Terms state it can be a single box order or single prolon order. Not sure, looking for data points.

Vince

It looks like if you do the box of fast bars via the fast bar website that it kicks you to, I would not trust that the miles would post. Fast bar site has its own separate set of portal options when looking that up on cashbackmonitor. I think the only ‘single box’ order that works is the one for ~$180 unfortunately. I am not aware of any card linked deals, but anyone can prove me wrong.

Hombre

Posting here as well as trying to figure out miles, upgrade, loyalty vs doing a different way…

Trying to determine correct path to get most loyalty with AA as well as potentially get upgrade. Planning a trip in late Sept to early Oct to GLA and London. I can buy a premium economy ticket on BA for $1468 AARP discount) or on AA for $1533. I am Platinum Pro/Emerald so I can get 9X dollars spent on AA. However with BA, it is based on mileage and class of seat. Last time I flew, I used BA and got (1171 X2) 2,342 EQDs. It would be same here.

The AA purchased ticket would get (1533-fees/taxes = $600 for fare) (600*9) = 5,400 Award Miles. British Airways Den to LHR base miles 4684 miles each way = 9,368 base. So double on BA, BUT upgrade miles are double (see next part).

I may want to upgrade to business class using points. If I buy with AA, that is 15K each way plus additional fees (about $900 plus 15K per direction) as fees are incremental $900 on BA to go from PE to Biz. If I use BA Avios, it is 30K each way plus fees.

So trying to determine right play. Book on AA or book on BA. I have status on AA and not BA.

I am thinking getting loyalty points EASIER than using AA/BA miles, so better doing AA ticket and then using portals/other ways to make up the delta. I do not thing this is the decision criteria AA was looking to do based on this but they created the rules.

Thanks!

Vince

Sounds like Aa is the way to go when looking at net cost for the same product, if I followed everything right…

Hombre

If I do PE only, then BA better. If I upgrade to Business, then AA might be better as I can gain loyalty via other ways to make up delta.

Hombre

Sorry my calculation all WRONG! It is better with STATUS all the time buying ticket on AA site. Based on Platinum Pro you get 9X fare. So for my flight options: Economy $659=5931 points, PE $1,518=13662 points and B $3798=34182 points. If I buy the ticket on British Airways site (the fully refundable prices are WAY high): economy does not work as I would get 25% of base miles, PE $1811=9368 points and B $3826=14052 (all based on miles flown 9368). Took a spreadsheet and a few minutes to come to this conclusion. WITHOUT STATUS on AA it goes from .11 cost per point to .2. If you do not have status and are earning base 5X the premium economy on BA (could also stack with AARP discount) would be better than buying on AA. Hopefully this can help someone else. FrequentMiler team, might want to post an example in the partner section of your AA loyalty post from today. Thanks all.

Anita

Has anyone contacted customer support at Simply Miles and received a response back? I have not heard back after several days. Any other way to contact them?

Vince

I have through their site at least twice. Radio silence, awaiting miles from 12/14 and 1/8

Morris

After a very long time, I actually got a reply back asking me for proof of purchase and order details from Byte. I sent it, and the next day they wrote back saying it has now been elevated to the Tier 2 team for investigation.

Justmeha

Now that there is a post with over 400 comments I think it’s time to add some features to make them easier to read.

For example sort by most recent (including replys), search, see more comments per page etc.

Hombre

I suggest a google sheet that shows what works and what does not. The miles/points will change, but primary and stack pieces are key into understanding what is best to do. It would help compared to reading/re-reading these comments.

AA-ron

Or convert it to Slack

Rjnutter

@Greg – Do we have permission to post a Spreadsheet or Slack channel for this?

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Josh

Here’s one I’m trying for the team as a DP if nothing else. With all the questions about Byte, I’m going to try two separate transactions. For the Simply Miles (4650) and Citi Merchant Offer ($100 off $100 purchase), I purchase four of the BrightByte teeth whitening ($105 before taxes). Those two offers only state a requirement of $100 purchase which this satisfies. The AA offer (2500 miles) only requires the impression kit, so I’ll purchase that separately with the discount ($15 total).

Vince

I did the former, just as you did with the teeth whitening using SM/Citi, on 1/8. Nothing yet…and have submitted queries to SM. Have screenshot of SM offer that only indicates purchase amount, nothing else

Josh

That’s interesting. I took screenshots just in case – not that it will necessarily help, showing the T & C. Did you have the Merchant Offer for $100 back also.

Vince

Yes, Citi for $100

Elizabeth

The TC’s on the AA Shopping site says”not eligible for purchases made with coupon codes or discount codes that are not found on this site” (All of the AA offers say this). So are you possibly not getting the deal because the Byte side is inserting some type of code when you are buying the impression kit at $14.95 and it is normally $95?

Josh

I used the discount code from AA that knocked the kit to $15 and my miles posted within 3 days from ordering.

Josh

FYI…Motley Fool through AA just went up to 6200 miles from 3700 yesterday. I realize 6200 isn’t the highest; however, not sure if it would go any higher based on past trends.

BILL

It’s gone as high as 14,900 in the past.

Vince

Can set alerts for favorite merchants on the AA portal…first time doing that, don’t know how effective it works

Josh

Good stuff – didn’t know. Thanks! I’ll hold out on that one and see.

Nun

I think it was only last summer that they offered 10k

BILL

AA offered 14,900 from 1/30 to 4/20 last year for Motley Fool.

Josh

Interesting..went up another 300 miles from just yesterday. Still only 6500 so will wait and see yet.

Nick Reyes

At the time when they increased it to 14,900, they had also added terms that it was only valid on a subscription that cost like $1800.

https://frequentmiler.com/amazing-looking-motley-fool-offers-that-arent/

Rjnutter

Just did Sunbasket for 3700 (I think it increased?) through AA Shopping and stacked with $25 off $50 spend Amex offer. No minimum subscription language either.

BILL

Went from 3000 to 3700, which is where it usually peaks per Cashbackmonitor. Like Hungryroot, you are initially prompted with a list of meals, but you can then click through after “checking out” and change it to be proteins, snacks, etc if you don’t want the meals. First order is $40 off, so if you spend exactly $90, you should be able to get $90 of stuff for $25 and 3,700 AA RDM/LP. If we go by reasonable redemption value, that’s a $23 profit.

Daniel

Bill, so I looked through the meals, selected the meals, started to go through check out and did shipping/payment but did you actually hit the “check out” button? Then change the order to protein or snacks? or Does it not actually check out when you do that and try to upsell you with additional stuff, then you change to the proteins/snacks without the meals.

BILL

Yes. The check out button doesn’t actually process payment, but gets you to a screen where you can select that other stuff. The payment’s processed seemingly on the day when they ship out the items.

Nun

After the first Sunbasket order ships is it easy to cancel the subscription?

Tami

This is an older DP, did Sunbasket about 18 months ago, but at the time canceling required calling.

BILL

I haven’t canceled yet, but I did see a cancel subscription button on the website.

Hombre

Has anyone tried to do MULTIPLE 3700 miles/points with Sunbasket? Terms are: Eligible for new customers’ first order only. Not eligible on any free products, trials, services, memberships, subscriptions and retailer marketing subscriptions. Not eligible on purchases made with coupon or discount codes that are not found on this site. Not eligible on gift cards, gift certificates or any other similar cash equivalents. Purchases made with a gift card may be ineligible.

But it does not say that multiple people can sign up. Or am I overstepping?

Vince

I suppose with different email and different delivery address it might work on the sun basket side. However there is probably a stop on that on the AA side. Does not mean you can’t earn Alaska miles, United etc

Jordan

I have earned two 3700 mile Sunbasket bonuses, but one was in 2020 and another in 2021. Don’t know if that is the distinction (needs to be separate years) or just the way it worked out with our timing, and multiple bonuses could hit in 1 year.

Nun

I see the offer is $90 off, but it’s really $40 off order #1, then $15 off #2, etc.

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Ben

Man oh man that Sunbasket food was bad. I know we’re doing this for the miles but it was utterly offensive of them to sell that to a paying customer. Next time I’ll eat the Spot and Tango and leave the Sunbasket for my dog.

Nick Reyes

Totally depends on what you get. We’ve gotten Sunbasket a number of times. One time everything was awful. The other times, it has been one of my favorites. I tend to really like their Thai and Indian dishes (particularly the already-made ones that you just pop in the oven to heat).

Kim

Mmmmh, now the gamble is whether to trust the upstate NY guy’s taste in Thai and Indian dishes? I guess I will give it a go based on his international travel experience, but ordinarially not. 😉

Elizabeth

I won’t be buying again unless there are significant points involved but I kind of liked them. Green Chef on the other hand-way too much work for meal delivery. One required using three different pans. That type of clean-up seems inconsistent with the concept of a meal kit concept.

Troy

Viator has a useful stack happening in the AA Portal & Paypal offers.
Paypal has an offer you can save to your account for 10% back when checking out via Paypal with Viator thru 1/22/22 AT 10PM CST, max $500 discount (Details emailed to me by Paypal).
AA Portal is offering:
7 miles/$ at Viator
500 bonus miles on $50+ at Viator expiring 1/23/22
500 more bonus miles on $150 anywhere in the AA portal
*or* 1000 more bonus miles on $300 anywhere in the AA portal

Stacking these you’d get the following benefits:
$50 spent gets 350 LoyaltyPoints & 850 AA miles for $45
$150 spent gets 1050 LoyaltyPoints & 2050 AA miles for $135
$300 spent gets 2100 LoyaltyPoints & 3600 AA miles for $270

You can of course combine spend with other sites in the AA portal to hit your 500/1000 bonus for cumulative $150/$300, but I included it here as an example.
If you’ve been eyeing an activity now may be a good time to book, since most experiences provide a full refund if canceled 24+ hours prior.

Jay

Is spot and tango crediting despite there being a 20% off “trial”, which seems to break terms? Or is there some way to get around the trial?

Troy

Just use promo code CART50 that’s advertised on the AA portal. Using that all things posted fine for me AA/SM/CitiMO

Jay

Thanks for the info! Will give that a shot.

Josh

Just tried yesterday and was already credited the points – even with the 20% two-week trial offer.

BILL

WSJ is offering 1,000 points through the AA shopping portal. Terms say the subscription needs to be monthly and needs to be open for at least 45 days. The subscription on sale is $4 per month for digital access, so looks like it would be 1,000 points for $8?

elk

From other comments here and around this is supposed to go up much more at the end of the month given it’s past history.

Troy

That’s MotleyFool not WSJ

elk

Ah thanks for the correction! I kept thinking it was WSJ.

Jay

Yup. but if you attempt to cancel, they offer you an additional 2 free months, so you can keep the account open for 3 months for $4. Not sure if aa tracks to see if you’re paying for each month. Only time will tell I guess!

Anita

Just check on how you cancel. I did this a couple of years back and the cancellation had to be by phone and within about a 2 week window, between the miles posting and before the next payment. I missed it.

Mikey

In my case (California) this used to be the case a few years ago (too many hoops). But as a legit subscriber (not related to points) of another Dow Jones service using the same platform I once had to cancel, and the phone rep said that for certain states like California they have (been forced to offer) an online cancelation option in the Subscriptions section. I have always used that in recent years for Barrons, WSJ, Marketwatch etc. which share the same platform. Not sure if it is (now) applicable to everyone or not. Do be careful though, that their charge processes a day or two before the renewal date and it is a pain to deal with them to refund that if you are canceling, even if they agree right away that it is their fault and you are due a refund (phone calls, escalation etc required to accomplish). I now just cancel in advance and enjoy the benefits until the end of the current period, without it auto-renewing.

Mikey

Yeah, that’s how I saw it too and can report that not only did track, but also posted to AA very quickly indeed. The portal still routinely claws back points if order is canceled or terms violated, so I would not mess with canceling before 45 days even though the miles already posted, and I thought it was a reasonable cost based on value I assign to points.

Nun

Today WSJ went up to 1,500 miles and the price went up to $8. If you want to penny pinch, the offer terms imply they have better deals sometimes. 3 months for $1 and 12 weeks for $12:

“Please note these terms & conditions: For ‘Get 12 weeks for $12’ offers: Eligible on one (1) subscription per loyalty account number. Only eligible on paid subscriptions. Only eligible on first month for pay by month subscriptions. Subscription must be active for at least 45 days. For ‘Get 2 weeks, 4 weeks, two or three months for $1’ offers: Rewards will be issued based on an eligible Member’s purchase of a subscription to The Wall Street Journal, starting with (1) 2 week, 4 week, two or three month of a subscription for $1.00. The trial subscription purchase must remain active (i.e., may not be cancelled) for at least 45 days.”

W J

For naked wine, can one make the 39.99 purchase through aa portal and pause the deposit, wait for the points to be posted then cancel?
TIA

Troy

Yes, you can also get your “angel” fully refunded at any time. It’s easy, not one of those nightmare subscription services.

C H

Hm, I may have screwed this up. I made the purchase on January 8, the miles posted within a few days, and then cancelled on January 19. On the aadvantageeshopping portal, it now shows a reversal of the 3,700 miles dated January 21 under “recent transactions”. The miles haven’t been deducted from my AAdvantage account yet, but that’s probably a matter of time. Looking at the T&C again, probably it’s required to make at least one of the regular $40 (refundable) “angel” contributions before canceling, rather than just making the initial purchase and then canceling? It’s not how I interpreted “By redeeming this offer, you agree to make a $40 monthly contribution to your Naked Wines account (charged until you cancel) that you can use to buy wine.”, but for those planning to cancel, it might be wise to wait until the first $40 charge before doing so, given that it seems the refund of unused contributions is automatic.

JL100

Same thing happened the me. The T&C said only apply to first purchase and no requirement to pay the next month, so I’m disappointed their terms are not even clear. They should just say must keep subscription for 30 days if that is the terms. Make it clear.

C H

Yes, I had also focused on the “first purchase” aspect of the T&C, not interpreting the “agree to make a $40 monthly contribution to your Naked Wines account (charged until you cancel)” as meaning you couldn’t cancel until at least one of those monthly contributions was made. Oh well, live and learn, and enjoy some wine.

W J

Thanks for sharing! about to cancel mine, guess I’ll wait now

Anita

How do you pause the deposit? Thx.

Bonnie

did you ever figure out how to pause the deposit? I want to know as well

W J

you can’t pause but change the date only

Elizabeth

I screwed up the Thrive Market one and paid for an annual membership. Just tried to cancel and I’ve never had a company make it such a pain to cancel. You have to go through a chat bot, then an actual person. Every step they try and get you to keep the membership.

Vince

Speaking of difficulties cancelling, my wife had a really hard time cancelling Stitch Fix. Process was totally unreasonable, impossible to navigate, and took her months. Just in case a miles offer comes up with this, caveat emptor

Elizabeth

Every offer I saw was for a waiver or discount on the styling fee, which is waived if you buy something.

Shannon

Regarding Thrive, I just placed an order and paid with my AmEx Gold and used an AmEx offer $20 back after spending $100 at Thrive.

Sharon

For Thrive Market is there a way not to sign up membership? I haven’t tried it and afraid hard to navigate.

Elizabeth

They have a $5/month membership so it may be worth it to pay for one month. It just didn’t have anything I really wanted (too healthy).

Jeanette

Did the AmEx offer for Thrive post even though you used the AA Portal and not the AmEx offer link? The AA Portal T&Cs says valid on monthly or yearly membership or 30 day membership trial w/ first purchase. Which did you do? Thanks!

Michelle H

How long is it taking for people’s Simply Miles to post? I’ve had things post from the AA shopping portal and Rakuten, but for the offers I linked to my cards with Simply Miles nothing yet. Started shopping on 1/11, so might not have let enough time pass yet.

Larry K

Also waiting for 1/11.

Sharon

I already have Naked Wine and Barnes & Noble posted from Simply Miles.

Nun

So many wine offers. I think elites will be mostly wine lovers in the new program.

Jay

Spot and Tango and Club Feast posted for me in 4 days

Larry K

How did you get club feast. In NYC?

Larry K

Any experience what will happen with a simplymiles card linked purchase if the purchase is refunded? Thinking about buying a ticket on stubhub for a game that is 99 percent certain not to happen. They say they refund to the card used.

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Matt

Do we know which Citi cards get merchant offers? I recently got an AA Business Platinum and am seeing an error and no offers.

Tami

In my experience, it’s inconsistent. I have a Premier with offers, my P2 cannot get offers on his Premier no matter what. Classic Citi IT, really.

LUANNE

Just did Blink Health 500 miles ordered B-12 VITAMINS 30 tabs generic.Price $6.14 coupon $5 off,total $1.14.Pick up at local Walmart.There are other pick up options and choices .I needed the vitamins.Will update.

Carl

Did it post? Portal says you need to fill a prescription

LUANNE

I did this late last night,let’s give it another day or two.Fingers crossed.

Elizabeth

It read to me like it had to be an rx.

LUANNE

This is a discounted perscription service of some sort.I would hold off for now and let me see how my order ends up.

Elizabeth

I looked up a couple RX’s and they are actually less than my copay! I may actually switch and pay cash.

Jay

Also worth noting – if you sign up for bespoke post, you can skip the monthly box (still need to add a CC to sign up) and still get the AA miles.

Troy

So just sign up for the monthly boxes, then skip your first box, collect miles then cancel?
Also keep us posted on if you get Future Fitness to work, I’d been eyeing that.

Jay

Exactly!

Jay

Noticed future fitness is offering 3700 AA miles. T&C state account has to be active for 45-60 days. Tried to stack this with the Future Fitness 2-month free trial available to Amex Platinum members (even though trials are excluded from the miles offer). Actually got the 3700 AA miles the next day, but they were promptly clawed back. Lol.

Carl

Newbie type of question so please don’t get mad. I have Amex offers that require me to go to a certain website to claim. How can I get that offer plus click through a portal to get miles? I saw somebody mention copy and paste a link but I didn’t follow which order this needs to be done. Any help so I don’t mess this up would be appreciated. Thanks in advance

Troy

First caveat, this doesn’t always work. But I’ll give an example I just did here:
Wine Insiders was 5mi/$ on AA Portal. Amex offer was for $30 back on $30, going thru a particular site (wineinsiders dot come slash amex).
I clicked thru the AA portal link, then in that same browser tab I pasted the amex link. I then added items to cart and checked out. Amex offer posted, miles posted.

Carl

That is one of the exact offers I was trying to get. Thanks!

Troy

Just make sure you don’t use a promo on the site – it used to work but latest info is that the 6pack for $45 and other deals negate the amex offer. I just did straight up adding wines to cart and paying for them and it was fine, even with 6 wines for free shipping.

Kim

@Troy Do you remember what you did for Naked Wines? I notice that clicking gets you to a prompt “click to claim your voucher” and if you click through the eshopping portal, it codes as IMPACT100, while clicking thru AMEX, has AMEX where the IMPACT100 code was. Thanks in advance any info that triggered the AMEX offer.

Troy

You should leave the AA portal’s code and the amex offer should still post based just on the card spending. I decided to be weird on this one…will be doing 2x$40 orders on P1’s CC to get the Amex Offer, but will sign up 2 different people for the club. So should get 2x Signup bonus for $40 total after offer. Waiting to receive & cancel P1’s subscription first, so won’t be able to report for another week or so.

Josh

Did you get your Amex offer to trigger?

Or am I reading you haven’t done the second of the $40 purchase yet?

Troy

Haven’t done it yet – first box arriving today so I’ll cancel that, wait a day or two and place another order under different player with first player’s same Amex card.

Josh

I got my Amex offer to trigger on 2 ~$40 purchases from the shopping portal. Email was slightly delayed though (5-10 minutes). Hopefully my second set of AA points post too 🙂

Josh

it sounds like you have to use P2’s AA Shopping portal account, too? Or is this just saying first purchase for the new customer?

terms and conditions:
“Only eligible on the first purchase”

Edit: Nope this seems to be different, ie motley fool has this language: “Eligible on one (1) subscription per loyalty account number”

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Carl

So going through the Amex link all of the “deals” from the portal are not available. What type of order did you place to keep you close to $30?

Troy

3 bottle minimum, shipping is $15, plus tax…so I went with 6 Riojas I’d tried previously at $8 each. End up getting them for $3.50 each after tax. Not worth it unless you want wine. If you’re uncertain of wine quality Vivino is a good place to quickly rule some out. This site has some truly awful wines and some totally acceptable ones (for $3.50 anyway).
Edit: free shipping with 6 bottles

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Ben

There’s two buckets of Amex offers:

1) 2% off any purchase at XYZ.com — these are really just a shopping portal; you typically have to go to the specific url, but they’re usually not a very exciting deal.

2) $20 off $40 at XYZ — these look at the merchant after the transaction posts to your account. Even if the terms state you have to go to a specific site, they will USUALLY track regardless — they’re just looking for the merchant name. No guarantees; if a deal is written up here or on Doctor of Credit, etc., they’ll have data points as to whether this is required.

But generally with type 2, you can go thru whatever shopping portal you want and both will stack.

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Vince

Nobody gets mad or mean here. This is Frequent Miler.

Nick Reyes

I like it, Vince!

Gianni

Passed gold threshold with 30400 pts today. Cost was $427 but most was for things I would use and often at a nice discount. Going for Exec Platinum with a Player 2 as well. Have used the following so far…
Spot and Tango Naked Wine WSJWine WSJ  Bonus Awards Sunbasket Good Morning Snore BabyList Hungry Root Byte Bright Cellars

elk

Great summary and congrats! Did you stack offers or straight through AA portal?

Gianni

Both

Alex

Did you get the 4650
Simply miles from byte?

Gianni

I just did that one today so can’t confirm quite yet

Eliza

Did your AA account actually get upgraded to gold already? I wasn’t clear if that could happen before March or not.

Gianni

No, not yet. I just finished all my purchases today but so far all my prior ones have posted no problem.

Alex

Dumb question? — how does a P2 help in this scenario?

Mike

Does “Bonus Awards” in your list refer to the miles for minimum spend on the AA portal? I was under the impression that these miles would not earn LPs.

Alex

No issue with Sunbasket even though the billing isn’t immeidate? I went through portal, loaded up a cart and closed out after saving

Neil

For the Byte triple-stack i know the purchase total had to be $100 but if you just use the AA shopping portal for 2400 miles it states in the fine print that you only need to buy the impression kit and that is marked down to just $14.95 plus free shipping. Has anyone had success just doing that and aborting SimplyMiles?

Edward

I am trying it. We will see what happens!

Carl

I ordered the impression kit on Wednesday through the portal and it posted 2,500 miles to my Aadvantage account this morning.

Vince

This might be the first DP of Byte working…

Chris

2500 AA miles posted for me on the $100+ impression purchase. I think what we lack is DPs on Byte posting on SimplyMiles or Citi MO.

Carl

To be clear. I did not have the SM offer on my page and had no cash back offers from my credit cards so I only went for the 2,500 on the AA portal. Bought the impression kit for $15.85 including taxes and that was it. Tracked and posted.

Neil

Thanks for the DP. ROI of 151 points per dollar spent. Almost as good at SM. Too bad you can’t scale this one.

Mikey

In my case, I had the SM offer but I still went only for the AA portal since it was clear that it only needed the impression kit.

Josh

Similar. I did two separate transactions. I did the 2500 miles for the impression kit through AA ($15 with discount) and miles posted. I did another transaction with $105 (pretax) of teeth whitening for Simply Miles (4650 miles) and merchant offer ($100 back). Haven’t received the second stack yet, but those offers both only stipulate the minimum purchase to qualify.

Vince

Same here. the AA 2500 for the discounted impression kit worked no problem The any purchase >$100 with SM/Citi/Topcashback has not posted on any of them. Previously submitted query x 2 to SM and yesterday I submitted a query to TopCashBack (first time ever I have not had something track correctly with them)

Mikey

Yes, I did exactly this. I don’t have the Citi Merchants offers (despite 4 Citi cards ) so for me it was a choice between doing double-stack SimplyMiles + AA Portal for $100 or just the AA portal for $14.95. There were too many things in the fine print that didn’t make me feel comfortable with the SimplyMiles offer… it kinda appeared that you need to get the aligners. So I just went with the AA portal only on 1/6, it tracked on 1/7 and posted to AA the same or next day.

I still have the option of extending to the full $100 to get the SimplyMiles also but given the experience of folks here and the vague language, I thought I’d save myself the time and money.

Alex

For what it’s worth, Byte is willing to process a refund if the original packaging is not opening less an $8.95 fee. I’m getting fairly confident that the Citi offer will not post and i’m not willing to pay $100 for 2500 miles (which is all that has posted by now)

Vince

Has anyone had anything post for Byte, with Simply Miles or any portal? So far for me it’s Simply Miles 0 and nothing pending on Topcashback.

Michelle H

Nothing for me yet (nothing in AA portal, Simply miles or Citi).

Josh

I did two separate transactions. I did the 2500 miles for the impression kit through AA ($15 with discount) and miles posted. I did another transaction with $105 (pretax) of teeth whitening for Simply Miles (4650 miles) and merchant offer ($100 back). Haven’t received the second stack yet, but those offers both only stipulate the minimum purchase to qualify.

Margaret

Beginner question- do i put all credit cards in my simply miles profile, even including Amex?

Rjnutter

Simply Miles only supports Mastercard cards.

Larry K

I had my first “this is causing me to spend money that I don’t want to spend and causing me annoyance that I don’t need” moment today. I ended up spending $67 on Hungry Root. The website is super annoying. You pay and then it gives you meals that it picks for you which you can swap out but only using “credits” in a convoluted swapping scheme. The crap is way overpriced and I have little doubt that it’s going to be a hassle to cancel and that they’ll inundate me with spam. Assuming everything tracks correctly it should be $30 from citi, 1850 AA miles which are loyalty points, and 750 Amex via Rakuten. I’m not sure that the $10 to $15 I’m out of pocket in value is worth the hassle. Maybe I’ll feel better when I’m eating my quinoa bean paste chorizo infused tofu tacos?

Elizabeth

Those tacos truly sound awful. I am curious how you made the Rakuten piece work. I was looking at one (forgot which) that had a good cash back from Rakuten but I don’t know how to do two portals in one transaction.

Larry K

I have a rakuten button on my browser and it seemed to track it ok but we’ll see. (That’s not really name of the tacos. I’m exaggerating. But really only a little.)

Tami

This isn’t a two portal stack, you can’t stack two referral portals. Larry did Rakuten + 2 card-linked programs.

Tami