Amex Gold lost its shine (for me)

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The Amex Gold Card has become relevant again now that it will offer 4X at restaurants worldwide as of June 6th (previously it offered 4X only in the US).  That’s a nice improvement to the extent that restaurants outside of the US accept Amex.

Last October I was pretty excited about the Amex Gold Card.  In the post “Is 4X worth $250 per year? How much are those Amex Gold 4X categories (grocery & dining) worth?” I wrote:

The new American Express® Gold Card offers an eye-popping 4 Membership Rewards points per dollar for spend at restaurants and grocery stores in the United States (grocery store 4X is limited to $25K spend per year).  That’s great.  Unfortunately, the card also offers a great big annual fee: $250.  Is 4X worth that fee?

First, consider that the card offers other valuable benefits:

  • $120 dining credit: $10 per month credit for spend at GrubHub, Seamless, The Cheesecake Factory, Ruth’s Chris Steakhouse, and Participating Shake Shack locations
  • $100 Airline Fee Credit: Get reimbursed for airline fees charged by your selected airline, up to $100 each calendar year.

If you already spend at least $10 per month with one of the dining credit merchants, then the dining credits should be nearly as good as cash back to you.  Otherwise, you will likely value this benefit far less than face value.

Similarly, the airline fee credit could be almost as good as cash if you know how to take full advantage of it (see: Amex Airline Fee Reimbursements. What still works?). Otherwise, you’ll probably value this benefit well below $100.

To determine whether the Amex Gold card was worth its high sticker price, I argued that the ability to earn 4X at US grocery stores (up to $25K, then 1X) was worth 2 cents per dollar above the best alternative, and the ability to earn 4X at US restaurants was worth 1 cent per dollar above the best alternative (see the original post for the logic behind these values).  With that info, I created this worksheet:

Your worksheet

Fill out these values to determine how much the Amex Gold card is worth to you:

  • $120 Dining Credit. If I could buy this as a membership, I’d pay: ____________
  • $100 Airline Fee Credit. If I could buy this as a membership, I’d pay: ____________
  • 4X at US Restaurants:
    • Weekly restaurant spend: ____________
    • X 52 =  ____________
    • X .01 = ____________
  • 4X at US Grocery Stores (up to $25K):
    • Weekly grocery spend: ____________
    • X 52 =  ____________
    • X .02 = ____________
  • Total annual value: ____________

If the total annual value is significantly more than the annual fee, then keeping the card each year makes sense.

And, in that same post, I filled out the worksheet based on my own situation at that time:

My worksheet (example)

Here are my values:

  • $120 Dining Credit. If I could buy this as a membership, I’d pay: $80
  • $100 Airline Fee Credit. If I could buy this as a membership, I’d pay: $80
  • 4X at US Restaurants:
    • Weekly restaurant spend: $150 (it’s probably much more than that actually)
    • X 52 =  $7,800
    • X .01 = $78
  • 4X at US Grocery Stores (up to $25K):
    • Weekly grocery spend: $200
    • X 52 =  $10,400
    • X .02 = $208
  • Total annual value: $80 + $80 + $78 + 208 = $446

$446 is significantly higher than the card’s $250 annual fee, so it’s definitely a keeper for me.

Things have massively changed

Since I posted the above worksheets in October 2018, a number of things have changed both in general and with my situation:

I haven’t been using the $10/month restaurant credits every month

I thought I’d easily earn $10 per month with the Amex Gold card thanks to regular Grubhub orders and occasional Ruth’s Chris happy hours.  And I have earned the $10 easily most months, but not every month.  That fact reduces the amount I value of the Gold card’s dining credits.

Citi Prestige now earns 5X at restaurants worldwide.

Prestige 4th Night Free

To me, I see 4X Membership Rewards and 5X Citi ThankYou points as being roughly equal.  But even though the Gold card will offer 4X at restaurants worldwide as of June 6, that doesn’t change the fact that Mastercard is accepted in far more places.  Regardless, since I have the Prestige card, I don’t value the Gold card’s 4X restaurant category above what I get with the Prestige card.

See: Prestige rocks my wallet for 2019.

I bought a Samsung watch.

a close up of a watch

When I combine this watch’s Samsung Pay capability with my US Bank Altitude Reserve card, I earn 3X (4.5%) everywhere.  This lowers the relative value of 4X Membership Rewards at grocery stores to only .5% compared to my best alternative.

See: 3X everywhere, on my wrist.

I signed up for the Ebates Visa.

a credit card and a credit card

One of the advantages of earning 4X Membership Rewards at grocery stores with the Amex Gold card rather than 3X with the US Bank Altitude Reserve is that there is less danger in getting shut down by Amex than by US Bank when buying gift cards at grocery stores.  With the Ebates Visa tied to a Membership Rewards Ebates account, I can earn 4X Membership Rewards buying gift cards from home.  That is way preferable to frequent trips to the grocery store.  Plus, there’s no need to worry about the Gold card’s $25K per year limit on 4X at grocery stores.

See: Ebates Visa with Membership Rewards. Everything you need to know.

My new Amex Gold worksheet

Here are my updated values:

  • $120 Dining Credit. If I could buy this as a membership, I’d pay: $80 now $60
  • $100 Airline Fee Credit. If I could buy this as a membership, I’d pay: $80 (unchanged)
  • 4X at Restaurants (worldwide as of June 6):
    • Weekly restaurant spend: $150 (it’s probably much more than that actually)
    • X 52 =  $7,800
    • X .01 = $78 now $0 (I earn more points with my Prestige card)
  • 4X at US Grocery Stores (up to $25K):
    • Weekly grocery spend: $200
    • X 52 =  $10,400
    • X .02 = $208
    • X 0.005 = now $52
  • Total annual value: $60 + $80 + $0 + $52 = $192

$192 is less than the card’s $250 annual fee, so the Amex Gold card is no longer a keeper for me.  When the next annual fee comes due I’ll call to cancel.  If they offer a retention deal worth significantly more than $58 ($250 annual fee – my $192 value estimate), then I’ll keep it another year.  Otherwise, bye bye Gold card.

Does the Amex Gold still shine for you?

Just because the Gold card has lost its spot in my wallet doesn’t mean that it’s wrong for you.  It is still the best card for US groceries if you spend more than $6K per year.  And it’s still one of the very best cards for restaurants (worldwide as of June 6).  To get an idea if it’s worth the $250 fee for you, fill out the worksheet below in order to estimate the card’s annual value.

  • $120 Dining Credit ($10 per month at various restaurants and food delivery services). If I could buy this as a membership, I’d pay: ____________
  • $100 Airline Fee Credit. If I could buy this as a membership, I’d pay: ____________
  • 4X at Restaurants (worldwide as of June 6):
    • Weekly restaurant spend: ____________
    • X 52 =  ____________
    • X .01 = ____________
  • 4X at US Grocery Stores (up to $25K):
    • Weekly grocery spend: ____________
    • X 52 =  ____________
    • X .02 = ____________
  • Total annual value: ____________

If the total annual value for the Amex Gold card exceeds $250 by a considerable margin, then you should consider getting this card, or keeping it long term if you already have it.

You can find more info about the Amex Gold Card here.

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Aloha808

Any love now that rakuten Visa has lost 3x and you’re not wearing the Samsung watch?

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Bee

We recently used the Gold card’s priority pass for free entry at an airport lounge at LAS, it was fantastic for a two hour layover, especially with 3 kids!

WR2

You can discount the 4xMR by another 1/4, since Chase Freedom reliably has grocery stores and restaurants as a category once a year.

Gmoney

No, because that is capped at 1500, whereas the AMEX gold is 25k for the year. Buying 1k or so of GC and 500 of grocery is easy to do a month

Jason

where online can we buy vgc with 4 percent back?

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Aloha808

Why not peg the price of MR in your calculations at 1.55 cpp (same as posted RRV), instead of 1.25 cpp? I understand being conservative, but let’s be fair to Amex and compare apples to apples.

james

What about 4x at giftcards.com

zmicer88

What do you mean?

Joaquin

If the dining credit was not split in credits of 10 dollars, I might have a use for the 120 dollar benefit, just like the flying. I do not use that every month so this is not valuable. Did the math with grocery and restaurant and did not work. Called AMEX and downgraded to Green. No retention offer, no inquiries, nothing and I am cardholders since 1990.

miafll

You should just cancel it because Green has no meaningful benefit. There are no fee AMEX personal card (Everyday) and business card (business plus) to keep your membership reward pts alive. No reason to downgrade to Green.

Yuri

Considering that I spend around $600-700 per month on a grocery stores with this card, let’s say $650, and I value Amex grocery spend at 3.5% more than Altitude (4*2 – 4.5 = 3.5), and I value restaurant credit at $80, and air credit at $100, then the math is:
80 + 100 + 650*12*0.035 = $453, which is $203 more than the AF. I think it’s a keeper.

Omer

No way Amex memberships points are worth 2 cents a point. something around 1.5 would be more appropriate

Yuri

I routinely get more than 2cpp when transferring to BA, AF, SQ, VS, NH, etc

miafll

Only if you convince yourself that you actually would PAY out of pocket cash for your premium cabin tickets. Obviously you dont. So telling yourself you get that high return is just a “feel good” exercise.
By that measure I routinely get over 10c per mile on many of J/F redemption but that is NOT the actual cash price I would pay for something similar or close enough – still a comfortable flatbed which is most important part of premium cabins. So I would not tell myself how great a value of the MR pts or UR or TYP would worth. That said, UR pts indeed have a guaranteed value of 1c to 1.25c to 1.5c depending on which card you own and how you redeem it Much easier to use too, no need to be subj to award availability for a starter.

Yuri

I mostly buy economy, business only for flights of more than 10 hours, which I rarely take.

Thetruthserum

Exactly!!!! Been saying this since I got in the game.

Yuri

No, but I’m not buying them at 2c, I’m buying them at 1.125c

Omer

You said “This lowers the relative value of 4X Membership Rewards at grocery stores to only .5% compared to my best alternative”. Is that means you value 1 membership rewards points at 1.25 cents?

Yuri

How do you get 0.5% for groceries? 4*2=8, which is 3.5% more than Altitude Reserve.

THEsocalledfan

4X MR vs 3x altitude is clearly better just as 3x UR was to 3x altitude. (and I am I huge altitude guys). That is worth more than you assigned if transferring to airlines IMHO. Plus, how can you give up the 4X at grocery? That is only a bit over 2K MS a month! Can’t the king of MS multi task? 🙂

Yuri

If you have Ink Cash, you can get 5x in OS stores, and they are frequently running promotions for Visa and MC GCs. The advantage of Amex is that the grocery stores sell $500 denominations, which are much easier to liquidate.

MSer

Sure wish I got 4x from gcm. Always just 1x

Yuri

It’s Ebates + Ebates Visa.

huey judy

AmEx Gold can’t hold a candle to Chase Reserve for me. The perks are great, and I really appreciate the customer service … being forced to call AmEx and talk on the phone to someone who can barely understand did it for me. Once you’re used to Reserve’s customer service and easy communicating, you’ll be unable to get excited about AmEx. AmEx was my go-to card for 30 years. It’s a sad turn of events for them, at one time the pinnacle of a good card.