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Staples is back with a new FAR (Free after Rebate) software download! This is a great way to make progress toward meeting credit card minimum spend thresholds or just to earn a few points for buying software you don’t really need or want. Of course, if you do want the software, the deal is even better!
The idea here is to go through the Ultimate Rewards Mall to Staples.com. Once there, buy up to 10 copies of this “Free After Rebate” downloadable software product for $20 each. If you use your Chase Ink card, you will get 5 points per dollar from the Ultimate Rewards Mall and another 5 points per dollar if you pay with your Chase Ink card (since this is an office supply purchase). If you use a Freedom or Sapphire card, you will earn 4 points per dollar from the Ultimate Rewards Mall and another 1 point per dollar from your Chase card. This means that you can earn between 1000 and 2000 free points. See Preparing for Miles for more info about the Ink and other cards.
Staples has an amazingly easy “Easy Rebate” system. Once you purchase the software, they send you a rebate link via email. You click the link, fill out a little bit of info and you’re done. Note that you will have to wait a while, though. It takes 4 to 6 weeks to receive your check.
If you have questions, please see the Q&A section at the bottom of this post.
Here are the steps to follow:
Step 1: Go to Staples via a shopping portal:
According to HikerT’s website, the Chase Ink card currently offers 5X for Staples whereas other Chase cards offer 4X. If you have the Ink card, log into that account. If you don’t have any Ultimate Rewards cards, you can go to TopCashBack instead. This should get you 5.5% cash back. $8.25 in free money!
Step 2: Add up to ten copies of “Trend Micro Titanium Maximum Security 2012 (1-User) [Download]” to your cart:
TIP: Search for item 368662
Step 3: Check out
TIP 1: If you have a Chase Ink card that gives 5X for office supplies, use it!
TIP 2: You may be able to save $15 by using coupon code 99618 ($15 off $150). Technically this coupon is not meant for software downloads so it may be risky to try this, but people have reported success.
TIP 3: Your state may charge sales tax. If you know someone in a state that doesn’t charge sales tax for downloadable internet orders (CA, NH, etc.), then set their address as the delivery address and no tax will be charged. This is a download only purchase anyway, so nothing will really be delivered. I picked “deliver to store” and picked a store in New Hampshire. Of course, there won’t really be anything to pick up.
Step 4: Submit Easy Rebates
You will receive an email from Staples with a link in it for submitting the rebate form. It’s easy!
TIP 1: Even though you bought 10 copies, you only have to fill out one rebate form. Note that it can take 4 to 6 weeks (or longer) to get your rebate.
TIP 2: The software rebate can be changed from a Visa gift card to a check! See screen shots taken from a previous FAR deal:
Q&A:
Same Item
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Q: In the past I’ve bought the exact same item for the rebate. Can I do this again?
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A: Yes. As long as the rebate number is different from your past purchases, you should qualify for a new rebate. This rebate is different from any I’ve posted about in the past.
Per Household Limit
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Q: How do you know that we can buy 10? I don’t see that restriction anywhere
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A: See “Can I really buy 10” for a walkthrough of how to find that information.
Per Household Limit, Question 2
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Q: Can I buy 10 copies for every friend I know?
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A: I don’t recommend it. I know at least one person who tried to buy two sets of 10 that way, but Staples did not approve the second set of rebates. I don’t know how they figured it out.
Status = Researching
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Q: The status of my order says “researching”. What’s up with that?
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A: Staples needs to verify your order. Sometimes this happens if you have the wrong email address or phone number on file. Simply give them a call or do an online chat with them to verify the information they need. Once that is done, they’ll confirm the order.
Ultimate Rewards Mall T&C
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Q: The Staples’ Terms and Conditions in the Ultimate Rewards Mall says “Not eligible on promotional items, technology, software, and electronics”. Shouldn’t this deal be ineligible since this is software? And, aren’t these free after rebate items “promotional”?
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A: In all past FAR deals, points have posted despite these terms & conditions.
Do I have to use a Chase credit card?
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Q: If I go through the Ultimate Rewards Mall to Staples, do I have to pay with a Chase credit card in order to get bonus points from the mall?
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A: No, you can use any credit card, but you may have better luck with a Chase card. For details and information about risks involved please see Ultimate Question.
Number of Rebate Forms
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Q: I bought 10 copies of the software. Does that mean I have to fill out the rebate form 10 times.
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A: Nope. If you buy multiple copies of a single item in one transaction, you only need to fill out the rebate form once. Really. I promise.
Rebate Time
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Q: How long will it take for my rebate to arrive?
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A: The Staples web site says to expect 4 to 6 weeks. My first rebates arrived after about 5 weeks so it looks like Staples’ estimate is fairly accurate.
Number of Checks
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Q: I bought 10 copies of the software. Will I receive 10 small checks or one big check?
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A: One big check.
Download
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Q: Do I have to download this software so that I can qualify for the rebate?
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A: No! I didn’t download any of the software I’ve bought in the past, but all rebates processed successfully.
Do Good
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Q: I don’t need this software. Is there someone I can send the license keys to that could make good use of this stuff?
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A: Check with your local schools or libraries. If someone can make good use of this software, then great!
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Manufacturing Spend Caution: Many, many things can go wrong when manufacturing spend. If you suddenly increase credit card spend, your accounts may get shut down. If you cycle your balance often (e.g. spend to your limit, pay the bill, repeat) within a billing cycle, your accounts may get shut down. If you repeatedly pay your credit card bill from an anonymous bill payment source, your accounts may get shut down. If you buy lots of gift cards you may lose money due to gift card fraud, theft, loss, or simply mishandling those gift cards (e.g. maybe you thought you already used a gift card and tossed it into your “used” bin). If you rely on only one method to liquidate gift cards, you may be stuck unable to pay your credit card bill when that method gets shut down. In other words, don’t try this at home unless you know what you’re doing, and you understand and accept the risks.. |
Chase Ultimate Rewards points are super valuable and super flexible. At the most basic level, points can be redeemed for cash or merchandise, but you'll only get one cent per point value that way. A better option is to use points for travel. When points are used to book travel through the Ultimate Rewards portal, points are worth 1.25 cents each with premium cards (Sapphire Preferred or Ink Business Preferred, for example) or 1.5 cents each with the ultra-premium Sapphire Reserve card. Another great option is to transfer points from a premium or ultra-premium card to an airline or hotel program when high value awards are available (see this post for details). If your points are tied to a no-fee "cash back" Ultimate Rewards card, then first move those points to a premium or ultra-premium card before redeeming them in order to get better value. |
Amex Membership Rewards points can be incredibly valuable if you know how to use them. In general, if you use Membership Rewards points to pay for merchandise or travel, you won't get good value from your points. One exception is with the Business Platinum card where you'll get a 35% point rebate when using points to book certain flights. This gives you approximately 1.5 cents per point value, which is pretty good. Another exception is with the Business Gold Card where you'll get a 25% point rebate when using points to book certain flights. This gives you approximately 1.33 cents per point value. If you don't have either card, then your best bet is to transfer points to airline miles in order to book high value awards. More details can be found here: Amex Membership Rewards Complete Guide. |
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Under certain circumstances consumer Visa cards don't work with Plastiq. The following payments are fine:
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In order to meet minimum spend requirements, people often look for options to increase spend in ways that result in getting their money back. These techniques are referred to as "manufacturing spend". American Express has terms in their welcome offers that exclude some manufactured spend techniques from counting towards the minimum spend requirements for the welcome bonus offer. For example, most new cardmember bonuses have terms like this:
Eligible purchases to meet the Threshold Amount do NOT include fees or interest charges, purchases of travelers checks, purchases or reloading of prepaid cards, purchases of gift cards, person-to-person payments, or purchases of other cash equivalents.That said, many techniques for meeting minimum spend are perfectly fine. Here are some techniques that are safe for meeting Amex minimum spend requirements (click each link for more information): |
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Yep, I got my points, too. Still nothing on the Sears order, but I guess it’s just slow.
Some more free points this week (9/2-9/8). Trend Micro Internet Security 3-User download. Item 368663. http://www.staples.com/Trend-Micro-Titanium-Internet-Security-2012-3-User-Download/product_368663?catalogId=10051&fromUrl=home&cmSearchKeyword=368663++++&cmArea=SEARCH&langId=-1&storeId=10001&ddkey=http:StaplesSearch
$15 free after rebate. Sadly, limit is only 1. 🙁
Update: The points posted on 8/31 for Staples and I ordered on 8/15. FM is right, just be patient and the points will show up.
Still no points for me yet. 🙁 Ordered 8/15, used SPG card so I have little recourse, and it’s software anyway so if it doesn’t post automatically, no way to get them to do it after the fact anymore since it says in the terms it doesn’t count.
Also still haven’t had a Sears order from 8/20 post. Forgot to double dip on that one, too. 🙁
Groupon order 8/17 posted on 8/21, though.
Just another data point: My UR points posted in 4 days and I used my SPG card to place the order.
I just spoke to a Chase rep about my missing bonus points and he confirmed that Software is not eligable for UR bonus points. At least 1,000 pts for free isn’t a bad deal.
Adam and Allen: I did receive points for the order despite the T&C. The UR mall seems to be slower than usual lately for many orders. Just wait a few weeks: you might find that you get the points after all.
Ordered about 10 days ago and points have not posted. There are also reports that the Lowes trick with putting a portion of the purchase on a CC resulted in no UR points. Seems like UR mall is cracking down on these loopholes.
Darn, thanks for the response though. I always appreciate your analysis. Maybe you should have a donate button! (too soon?)
econjon: Yes, sorry it was only good for a week. Normally I put in the dates for these things — I must have missed it this time.
Is this deal dead? When I searched for the 368662 it comes up as 59.99 without an instant discount.
I got an email too saying my rebate was invalid. Anyone know anything about that or what to do?
Marisela: call Staples
Just got a note from Staples saying my rebate offer is invalid…. trying to find out more.
How long do Staples UR point normally take to post? So far they are not showing up. Anyone else have that problem?
James: yes, it is several pages in where you have the option to switch from a gift card to a check
Nathan: FAR deals are usually shown in Staples weekly ads. Even better, follow SlickDeals to get info about them. I don’t know of any way to search staples.com to find them
How do you find these FAR deals on Staples’ site?