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I have 269,000 miles set to expire soon, and there’s no practical way to extend their life other than to use them to book future award flights. I previously wrote about my dilemma here: 269,000 ANA miles expire in about 9 months. What to do? At the time of that writing, my points were set to expire March 31 2021, but more recently, ANA has promised to extend the miles until September 30, 2021 for those who register (which I did, of course). That’s great, but I still need to figure out what to do with my miles by then. I don’t think another extension is very likely.
My situation has been a big problem… for at least one of my readers. In a recent “Ask Us Anything,” a participant declared his suffering and offered up a great solution:
32:56 – Greg your ANA “dilemma” is causing ME sleepless nights. Why don’t you book an open ended year long ANA RTW [Round the World] trip for you and your wife? Could Also be a great challenge for Greg!
I think that’s a great idea. We know that ANA’s “round the world” award is one of the best deals in travel (see: Around the world in business class for 115K [Sweet spot spotlight]). There’s arguably no better way for me to use my miles and I’ll almost certainly learn things along the way that will benefit readers. Let’s do it!
This is the first of what will likely be a series of posts about my planning this around the world business class adventure.
Around the World Objectives
Here are my initial thoughts about a Round the World trip that my wife and I would like to do, ideally starting January 2022 (Obviously, if worldwide travel isn’t an option by then we’ll have to change our plans):
South Africa
We have a good friend who lives in Cape Town and we are determined to visit her and her family. I visited them myself in 2019 thanks to the 40K to Far Away Challenge (see this post for details), but it was only for 1 day and without my wife. We’d like to bake in a safari trip while in South Africa and maybe even see Chef Bjarne as well (if you’re reading this Bjarne, dinner and drinks will be on us).
India
My wife has a friend/colleague from England who is currently living in Delhi. She has invited us to visit and we’d love to take her up on that.
Singapore
One of the many trips we cancelled in 2020 was my wife’s business trip to Singapore where she has a friend/colleague. We haven’t ever been to Singapore, but we’d like to visit and see our friend.
Australia
My wife will be on sabbatical this winter and has a potential opportunity to collaborate with a group in Australia. If that pans out, we would make southeast Australia our home base and would venture out from there for occasional trips around Australia.
New Zealand
We’ve never been to New Zealand, but we’ve long been itching to go. I imagine that we might do a couple of trips to New Zealand while staying longer term in Australia.
Is ANA’s Round the World award a good fit?
ANA’s Round the World award is priced based on distance bands. Here is a selection of the business class Round the World award prices for two adults:
- Distance of 18,001 – 20,000 miles costs 230,000 ANA miles for 2 adults
- Distance of 20,001 – 22,000 miles costs 250,000 ANA miles for 2 adults
- Distance of 22,001 – 25,000 miles costs 290,000 ANA miles for 2 adults
- Distance of 25,001 – 29,000 miles costs 340,000 ANA miles for 2 adults
- Distance of 29,001 – 34,000 miles costs 400,000 ANA miles for 2 adults
My 269,000 ANA miles would be more than enough to fly up to 22,000 miles around the world. Flying farther would require me to transfer more Amex Membership Rewards points to ANA. Here’s how much I’d have to transfer for each distance band:
- Distance of 22,001 – 25,000 miles: I’d have to transfer 21,000 points.
- Distance of 25,001 – 29,000 miles: I’d have to transfer 71,000 points.
- Distance of 29,001 – 34,000 miles: I’d have to transfer 131,000 points.
Obviously I’d prefer not to transfer any more points to ANA. On the other hand, I do want to use up all of my ANA miles before they expire. So, I’d say that the ideal distance band for me is 22,001 to 25,000 miles. That would require transferring only 21K more points and would use up all of my soon-to-expire miles.
In order to get an idea of the distance I would likely fly, I used Google Flights not to find award space, but to find Star Alliance routes that were likely candidates for my trip. Later I’ll worry more about award availability. The purpose of this exercise was just to get an idea of the likely mileage.
ANA’s Round the World awards require traveling in one direction (e.g. west to east or vice versa) and require crossing both the Atlantic and Pacific oceans. Using Great Circle Mapper, I mapped out a potential route that starts in Detroit and ends in Los Angeles. I could use other miles to fly the last segment home. Finding nonstop business class award space from New Zealand to the US for 2 adults is extremely unlikely, but I was willing to sneak in one very unlikely award to shoot for. If I couldn’t get that exact route (Auckland to Los Angeles), I could try instead to find award seats from Auckland to San Francisco, Houston, or Chicago.
According to Great Circle Mapper, the route shown above is a combined distance of 29,655 miles. That’s just over the amount needed for the 25,001 – 29,000 mile band. Instead, this puts me into the 29,001 – 34,000 mile band (which would cost 400K ANA miles for 2). I’d have to transfer 131,000 points to cover this award. The good news is that this band would give me quite a bit of wiggle-room in case I wanted to add additional stops or if the ideal award space options were less direct. The bad news is that it’s not a great optimization of my miles.
Is it worth mixing awards?
As I mentioned before, the sweet-spot for me to use up my ANA miles is to do a Round the World award that fits in the 22,001 to 25,000 mile band. Would it make sense for me to cut out some stops in order to make that happen and then separately book the missing pieces?
To test this idea, I removed Singapore, Sydney, and Auckland from the Round the World itinerary and added a likely stop or layover in Tokyo:
According to Great Circle Mapper, the route shown above is a combined distance of 24,128 miles. That’s perfect! I could book that route for 2 adults for only 290,000 ANA miles. I would only need to transfer 21,000 Amex Membership Rewards points to make that happen.
Great, but is it worth it? By cutting out Singapore, Sydney, and Auckland I’d save 110,000 Amex Membership Rewards points, but I’d still want to go to those places. If I used a different currency (or multiple other currencies), could I fly from Delhi or Tokyo to Singapore, Sydney, Auckland, and then back to Tokyo for fewer than 110,000 points for 2 adults in business class? That’s only 55,000 miles per person. I don’t think it’s possible. Most programs would charge considerably more than that for a similar itinerary.
A more practical route
Now that I’m mostly consigned to the idea that I’ll end up paying 400K ANA miles for this Round the World adventure, I’m starting to wonder if I could really piece it together. What if I can’t find non-stop award availability from New Zealand or Australia to the US? Would a more likely route still fit within the 29,001 – 34,000 mile band?
In my experience, finding business class award space flying ANA isn’t too hard. Flying ANA back to the U.S. would require a stopover or layover in Tokyo. So, let’s say that I take out the New Zealand part of the trip (I could book that separately). Here’s a route that seems reasonable:
According to Great Circle Mapper, the route shown above is a combined distance of 31,803 miles. That’s well within the band limits. Let’s see if I could get all the way home instead:
In the above route, my return flight is Sydney to Tokyo to Chicago to Detroit. According to Great Circle Mapper, that brings us to a combined distance of 33,183 miles. This is still within the 29,001 – 34,000 mile band, but it’s getting close!
Could I sneak in a visit to New Zealand as well? Not quite…
According to Great Circle Mapper, the route shown above is a combined distance of 35,132 miles. That’s more than 1,000 miles above the 29,001 – 34,000 mile band.
I could fix the above issue by returning to San Francisco from Tokyo. I would then have to book the final flight back to Detroit separately. Nah. If I can find non-stop award space from New Zealand to the US, that would be much better. If not, I’ll probably use a different award currency to book trips from Australia to New Zealand.
Next Step: Award Seeking
I can start immediately looking for award space to start the journey, but assuming that we spend a few months away, I can’t yet look for award space for the return. Most airlines begin to release award space about 11 months before departure. If we assume that the final legs of our journey will be sometime in March 2022, then I might not be able to find award space for the whole journey until April 2021, at best.
In my opinion, the best tool for finding award space for each segment of the journey is United.com. United does a good job of showing Star Alliance award space in calendar view. One “gotcha” is that they often show mixed cabin award space where part of the journey is in economy and part in business. Ideally, of course, we’d book everything in business class and so I’ll keep an eye out for that issue.
Meanwhile, I’ve already used SeatSpy to setup alerts for the following routes to let me know if United Airlines releases business class award space for 2:
US to South Africa:
- Newark to Cape Town
- Newark to Johannesburg
Return from Australia or New Zealand:
- Auckland to San Francisco
- Melbourne to Los Angeles
- Melbourne to San Francisco
- Sydney to Houston
- Sydney to Los Angeles
- Sydney to San Francisco
Reader Suggestions
Do you have any ideas for improving the plans and ideas I described above? Route suggestions that would lower award costs? “Must-do” stops along the way? Please comment below!
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Great piece. Looking forward to living vicariously!
Ethiad miles are only 13,000 from memory to fly Virgin business SYD to Queenstown in New Zealand. you can then work your way north to Auckland and fly Latam business one way back to SYD for about 350USD. That would keep you under your milage limit. I live in Auckland and have pretty much given up on star alliance to the USA as Air NZ so rarely release space, Alaska much better as can stop in Fiji or go via australia.
Here’s a tip – don’t route through Asia to get to your starting point in Africa.
My very first international award redemption was a OneWorld RTW Economy trip in 2011, and the ONLY availability to kick off in South Africa was to fly ORD-HKG-JNB with no time outside the airport in HKG. I staggered out of JNB airport into a waiting tour guide’s mini bus and passed out dead at the lodge. At least it was on CX, and at least I was young!
ORD-HKG-JNB(stop)-HKG(stop)-SGN(open jaw),BKK-NRT(stop)-LAX-SFO(stop)-MIA-CUN(stop)-LIM(stop)-MAD(open jaw),BRU-ORD
160,000 AAdvantage miles (46,216 miles flown all on one ticket)
This is a great aspiration! I’m surprised that you don’t think finding availability will be an issue. Do you think availability for 4 can be done on this kind of trip?
It’s not that award availability won’t be an issue, but I don’t expect it to be too hard for 2 adults (in my case) except for those impossibly hard to get routes like non-stops between the US and Australia or New Zealand or South Africa. I think it’s possible to do with 4 adults, but it would be much harder than 2
Once did a OneWorld Business Class RTW – 2003-2004. 7 months straight (Would of been longer but I ended it earlier due to fatigue). Unlimited segments I think, Not sure if there was a mileage maximum. Those were the days. 220,000 AA miles? In the days before lie-flat business class..except I had Dubai-LHR in BA new lie flat.
It was a paper ticket to boot. Went through all Australia cap cities except Tasmania. Up to Asia/India to Middle East, then to LHR. I had many more Euro segments, but ended it early.
Have done 2 more…2nd one was 4 months (2010) and that was buying tickets as I went, and 3rd one was a quick 2+ week trip in 2019.
Have you looked at LAX-AKL with a stopover in Fiji on Air Fiji? Or possibly starting your RTW in Hawaii, then from there to AKL? I know you have good options to Hawaii, and that would cut off a huge chunk of RTW mileage. Availability out HNL might be better than LAX too.
Those flights to the south pacific and australia that pre covid were unicorns might be possible now.
With so many of your destinations in the southern hemisphere, seems like a major waste to hop up and down to HND or such.
i have an ANA award ticket where one segment (UA 777-200) has been cancelled. the ANA rep said that if i cancel the award ticket (rather than booking a replacement flight) the miles redeposited will have a new expiration date of 3 years from now. that’s great! i suppose you can hope for a cancelled segment in your RTW itinerary to extend those miles!
Yep, if your flight is cancelled after your miles expire, then they reissue the miles with a new 3 year expiration date. Previously I would have hoped for that, but now I’m hoping to actually fly this journey!
Hmmm. What happens if a flight is canceled after you’ve already flown some of the segments?
Two points:
If you go on safari in South Africa, I highly recommend Phinda. We had an amazing time there.
Travel to/from Australia and New Zealand will not be easy, even by next winter. I have several business colleagues in those countries and they are being told they will not be able to travel outside those countries until 2022 at the earliest. Since they have largely gotten rid of Covid and are going about their business as usual, they are being very protective of bringing cases in from abroad.
Quick note: A number of people have recommended that we fly west instead of east. We’ll consider that but we were hoping to do South Africa first. That said, we might be able to work it out to go the other way. I’ll definitely consider it.
Oh one more thing. If you have low cost access to international calling, instead of calling the toll free US number for ANA, call one of their smaller hubs like the one in Singapore or Malaysia or HKG. If the line is dropped or if you need to call back for whatever reason, you have a higher chance of speaking with the person you spoke to, or the person who you believe has the best service attitude.
I would go with Malaysia if ANA operates a call center there. Friendly yet professional is what I look for in a call center. It’s no surprise that Korean Air has their global cal center based in Malaysia (Penang, Kuala Lumpur, The Datai Hotel, East Malaysia), which by the way, you can also visit if your SEAsia base is BKK. There’s a train from KUL to SIN but it’s not as luxurious as the Eastern Oriental train.
Great suggestion!
Glad you agree. I meant to say Penang island, Kuala Lumpur, The Datai Hotel, East Malaysia are all places worth visiting in Malaysia.
I was looking through my phone’s contact list and found numbers for ANA Hong Kong (+852 2810 7100) and Singapore (+65 6323 4333). This means I’ve called them at those numbers before.
For ANA Hong Kong, I noted Tammy Lee provided exceptional service. Hope this helps.
We’re planning a RTW trip using ANA for our family of 5.
I had read that going westward avoids having to adjust for the loss of time. Even an hour’s loss is a hassle with kids.
For the open jaw segments, we were planning to use United’s Excursionist perk, local train rides, and a repositioning cruise. But the cruise may not be an option anymore.
I’m looking forward to read more about your trip!
Not “must do” but great if you could get them along the way—Singapore to Perth to Sydney and Sydney or Auckland to Fiji to USA. Perth is a fascinating city and is rarely visited by Americans (as is Western Australia). We loved it. Also Fiji has many very nice resorts and is easy to do on points (you can get an overwater villa at the Marriott Momi Bay, which was our first experience with overwater villas). No idea what is doable with *A but may be worth a look-see. Another thought would be to see if you could squeeze Bangkok in between Delhi and Singapore. Lots to see out there!
Thanks!
Hi Greg, Great to read about your ANA RTW adventure. If I may, here are some suggestions that might help.
If you can maximize the route to fly on ANA’s own new business class, that’d be great. One of the routes pre-pandemic was LHR-HND I believe, among other US routes. LHR-HND would be a tall order because it would bypass much of the Asian continent and DEL. However, it’d be a step up compared to the Biz that Nick flew on previously.
To help conserve mileage, BKK or SIN might be a great place in South East Asia to get into Australia and New Zealand. I grew up in SIN but believe that BKK is a larger hub with more options for budget flights with Business Class options, but I may be wrong. SIN is an expensive expensive expensive city. Some of my friends from Washington DC and San Francisco complain about the cost of living in Singapore. BKK or SIN might also get you into DEL but that might be too much of a hassle.
With BKK as your hub, you and your wife might want to consider the Eastern Oriental train to Singapore.
With BKK or SIN as a base to explore Australia and NZ, you would be able to use your current mileage balance I believe.
Also, have you considered using open jaws if allowed?
As far as lounges go, I can only speak about ANA’s First Lounge in NRT. On that trip, I specifically went to compare United’s First Lounge (upstairs from their Biz lounge) and ANA’s. I still prefer the ambience and services of the former but the latter is far quieter.
Let me know if I can help with any questions.
Thanks!
Yes open jaws are allowed but they do add towards the max segments (12).
Love this article. The RTW trip really interests me, as it seems to be almost too good to be true. But I still have two big questions after reading several articles about RTW ticketing:
a. Do you have to book the entire trip at once when you buy the RTW ticket? Or do you buy the RTW “ticket” and then book individual flights as you go? As you point out, the availability of award seats six months or more from now is an iffy proposition.
b. Are you able to grab available award seats for your RTW booking regardless of which level of award is available? (i.e., can you take the “everyday” awards seats, or are you only allowed to use “saver” awards seats?
Thanks for your help! I look forward to reading more articles in this series!
a) I believe it does have to be booked all at once
b) You can only book saver awards
Thank you!! That definitely raises the level of difficulty!